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1185311 Post Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:23 am Thank this member for this postReply with quote Back To Top

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Taffatheart wrote:
We are currently looking for a suitable MH which fits LEZ regs because our trusty ol' Duetto doesn't comply.


Just buy something (anything?) with a petrol engine because (apparently) petrol engines never ever pollute the air. Rolling Eyes

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The cameras and computer could not cope with the volume of information collection and processing for all the petrol-driven cars.
 
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The cameras and computer could not cope with the volume of information collection and processing for all the petrol-driven cars.


Congestion zone and speed cameras manage it OK.

Diesels are probably more numerous across the the whole range of road vehicles now.

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To day i received an e mail from Tomsett suppliers and fitters of DPF systems stating that due to a lack of demand that Clean Diesel Technologies are scaling back supplies of the filters and that the price will increase from 20th jan from £1395 to £1695 + vat
 
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To day i received an e mail from Tomsett suppliers and fitters of DPF systems stating that due to a lack of demand that Clean Diesel Technologies are scaling back supplies of the filters and that the price will increase from 20th jan from £1395 to £1695 + vat



Interesting!

What if all filter manufacturers found it uneconomical to continue?

It could happen, because the wider market of commercial vehicle operators may have already swapped or retired their vehicles or have already fitted a filter, as have some MH owners.

This would only leave a decreasing residue of private owners, like myself, who have not swapped or fitted filters, and this residue may not constitute a viable 'market'.

If there were no suppliers, I cannot see how Tfl could legitimately enforce the legislation and I doubt whether a court could uphold a fine.

I am not sure whether I am 'clutching at straws' or 'seeing a light at the end of the tunnel'

Any opinions?

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Now, what was I saying?
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I have a certificate of compliance from TfL for our Hymer. But a registration search on the TfL website shows the vehicle as non compliant.


So today I get a letter from TfL stating that my vehicle has been seen driving within the Low Emission Zone. It goes on to tell me I will be issued with a PCN (Penalty Charge Notice) for £1000 if my vehicle does not meet the Standards within 28 days.

As this is a family forum I wont say what I really think of Totalitarianism for Luddites (TfL) other than to say that I've always considered them to be an organisation not fit for purpose!

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Now, what was I saying?
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I have a certificate of compliance from TfL for our Hymer. But a registration search on the TfL website shows the vehicle as non compliant.


So today I get a letter from TfL stating that my vehicle has been seen driving within the Low Emission Zone. It goes on to tell me I will be issued with a PCN (Penalty Charge Notice) for £1000 if my vehicle does not meet the Standards within 28 days.

As this is a family forum I wont say what I really think of Totalitarianism for Luddites (TfL) other than to say that I've always considered them to be an organisation not fit for purpose!

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That is interesting.

Why did Tfl not just issue a PCN rather than giving you 28 days to comply?

Are Tfl :

1 Not sure of the accuracy of their database?

2 Not sure of their systems?

3 Somebody at Tfl has shares in a filter supplier/fitter?

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So.... I phone Totalitarianism for Luddites.

The call was over seven minutes. I had posted some detail to this post. But, following advice that that contravened the Data protection act (thanks Saddletramp!) I have removed the quotes.

However, in general terms, I called them wanting to know why TfL had sent me this letter when the vehicle is compliant?
They claimed that it was because the DVLA records did not show the weight of the vehicle. This despite the fact that the lady had already quoted me the weight and it is shown on my V5C

TfL wanted me to register with them - clearly unaware that I had already done so.

They clearly had no record of my account or the compliance certificate.

But what wound me up was the repeated assertion the I'VE got 28 days to sort it out!
I do everything right - they foul-up. And I've got to do something about it!


Edit to comply with legislation (removal of quotes)


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So they admit that they don't know the weight and are 'guessing' !!!!!
Almost sounds like they are trying to obtain money by deception!

I know it's a hassle but I would be tempted to sent them a data protection act request to see all the information they have on your vehicle. Then when they send it with wrong information, inform them of their inaccuracies and they then have 28 days to correct it I believe. Send it registered.

That way if they ever try it on again go to court as they are then also in breach of the data protection act for not keeping accurate information.

Complete shambles but then again what do you expect when they give it to the lowest price tender!!!!
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