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mattnlaura wrote:
Want to spend Christmas in Rome

Reccommend Flaminia Village Camping just North of the city.
5 mins walk to rail station with trains every 5 mins into the city centre. €1 gets you a ticket to ride any bus, tube or train for 1 hour.
Small supermarkt across the road.
Site restaurant good quality for such and reasonable. Excellent sanitary block at hotel standard. No fixed pitches so nice relaxed atmosphere.
Best bit? They take camping cheques. We stayed over a month November 2009.
They say this is the year for the Nrhern Lights, I believe.
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What a brilliant trip! Happy planning Very Happy

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PeterandLinda wrote:
the January to March bits - Eastern Europe can get enormous amounts of snow and ice in Winter.


Yes, and in Poland / Czechland it's quite normal to have minus 20C at night and even minus 25C sometimes in Jan / Feb (Not talking about mountains either)
 
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PeterandLinda wrote:
Hi

This looks great but we would be a bit concerned about the January to March bits - Eastern Europe can get enormous amounts of snow and ice in Winter. Do you/will you have winter tyres fitted and/or snow chains? Is the van fully winterised? Do you have sufficient Propane capacity? Batteries big enough and new enough to cope in low temperature? Enough payload for emergency food supplies?

Hopefully, none of these will be a problem but you are better off preparing for as much as you can.

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This is what is concerning us too. We will get winter tyres fitted and take snow chains with us. How do you go about winterising the van? Is it just about wrapping pipes in insulation to prevent freezing?
 
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Reguarding winterising, dont skimp in those temperatures !

i spent 3 nights stuck in a bedford up Rietti (skiing) at minus 10 (no hookup) with the lot frozen up and even the pressure dropped dramatically on the inferior tank gas....
couldnt get down despite snow chains as the roads were solid ice and had to wait until they sorted them....
wished i d done more to winterise it !
 
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Thanks Spatz - what would you recommend we do?
 
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Found a couple of good links here: http://www.motorhome-list.org.uk/skiing.htm

and here: www.motorhomefacts.com/motorhome_winterising.html

Any personal tips from experience of camping in the deepest, coldest, darkest winter would be graciously appreciated![/url]
 
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Hi

I'm not familiar with your vehicle, but some examples of 'winterisation' are things like all pipes within a heated double floor, fresh water tank inside the van and a heated waste water tank - also stuff like double glazed cab side windows, insulating external cab screens as well as electrical and gas water/space heating and adequate gas supplies (if you heat the van 24/7 on gas, the gas will quickly run out) and any other measures you can think of.

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yeah thanks P&L. I've been reading that we should switch from butane to propane too for winter, this also led me onto research regarding different regulator pressures for diff gases and different fittings in different countries. Lots to think about... Confused

The floor isn't heated nor is it double thickness and it doesn't have a cavity to hold pipes but the fresh water tank is on board which is a good start i think and the side windows are all double glazed except the cab ones.

The waste water tank is underslung so perhaps i should look at a heater but will probably end up just leaving the valve open so it drains into a bucket and empty the block of ice out of that! Laughing
 
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You will find that the water in your waste tank will freeze as it hit the air and block off the tap from emptying. Speak with CAK tanks from Kenilworth for advice on water heater but these are like fish tank heaters that run off the batteries so not without their shortfalls. My top tip would be get a good little safe and bolt it into a corner out of sight where it will be difficult to lever out. If you can bolt it through the floor and at least one side. Photocopy all documents anyway as I think some countries like you to carry ID. Have a great trip.
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