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OK - someone is bound to do it before long so I might as well set it up!
Nuke has announced, for very sound reasons, that this site becomes subscription only from 07/01/06 which many members (including myself) seem to think is a big mistake. The question is, how many members will subscibe to the new site? There is now a membership of some 8,000 plus but I would guess that the vast majority of these are effectively lapsed or infrequent visitors. Once subscriptions are in place what will be the true, active membership then? Perhaps 4,000 or maybe 1,000? My guess would be in the 150 to 200 region - what's your guess?
Please complete the poll and we might give Nuke some indication of his projected income from a subscription-only site. The poll will run for 12 days, to finish just before the deadline for payments. As a guideline, please don't take part if you're a member of staff (you won't need to pay anyway) and if you already subscribe voluntarily, please fill in as a YES. Feel free to post your estimate of the result if you like. No prize offered for the nearest guess except the admiration of your fellow members.
My own position is that I do currently intend to subscribe for the first year but will only keep it going after that if the site continues in the same lively, entertaining and independent format as it has since I joined up some 18 months or so ago. Sadly I don't expect to be paying subs twice - but I hope I'm proved wrong.
I already subscribe, I dont have a problem with that, I have saved my money several times over. However I do feel if you make MHF subs only, the site will die. My problem is being told what subjects I can and cannot post on. Whats the point of a off topic section if you cant go off topic.
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you don't have to have a degree in economics to know this site will fail. having only got 36 subscribers from 8000 members why does nuke think he will get more now.
either he is wearing blinkers or he no longer wants to devote any time to MHF and this is his way of dumping it.
i had just started uploading photos so i could put wild camping spots, aires & sostas on the database. obviously i won't bother now. glad this news didn't come a month later.
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My own position is that I do currently intend to subscribe for the first year but will only keep it going after that if the site continues in the same lively, entertaining and independent format as it has since I joined up some 18 months or so ago. Sadly I don't expect to be paying subs twice - but I hope I'm proved wrong.
Hi Ken , an excellent post.
I echo your sentiments, I have said from my first post this wasn't about money. I would hate to see the demise of the site, two years + of hard work from Dave and thousands of hours by dedicated members all of which ironically has brought us to this situation.
I said I wouldn't join as there was no accountability.. but it is an odd situation, a thriving site, passionate members, an enthusiastic leader, all the ingredients for a successful club but lack of funds to continue.
I am torn between principals and reality, I don't want to be among the ranks who bring it's downfall.
It is called 'Motorhomefacts', but we have little information from Dave except that he can't continue without our dosh. I am prepared to give it a go on the same understanding as Ken.
A smaller membership will result , dedicated and with a vested interest in making it work, this is better than hoards of lurkers and trolls waiting to pounce and wreck havoc when they see an opportunity. I am honest and big enough to have a change of heart and admit it.
This is a £10 gamble for us, the price of two packs of fags, for Dave the stakes are much higher, I say lets give it a go................
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My wife ( Scottishmist) and son also read and post occasionally but we don't intend to subscribe three times.. If possible I would like to change my alias after subscribing to reflect this change .. can it be done ?
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I agrre with your postings, ridding the site of lurkers and trolls can only be good for the forum. I too intend to pay for the first year to see how things pan out. Compared with the cost of a TV license and the cost of the current motorhome magazines, £10 is a small price to pay for access to the mine of information supplied by the members of this forum.
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I am beginning to panic now. I love the site although I contribute very little to it in the way of posts. I have gained a great deal of knowledge from the activity on the site. I have donated voluntarily. This is the only forum that I visit on a regualr basis (several times daily) and only visit others if I wish to research a specific piece of information and then would not pay to do so. If the site does go into decline a much enjoyed part of my life will go into decline with it. Although I intend to stay and will gladly pay my subs once the Festive drain on resources is over which may not be by the 6th! However, if I do not get the same pleasures in the future as I currently enjoy I will be looking for pastures new.
Ian
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My wife ( Scottishmist) and son also read and post occasionally but we don't intend to subscribe three times.. If possible I would like to change my alias after subscribing to reflect this change .. can it be done ?
hmm i might be able to bring in some sort of couple subscription for same price as standard subscriptin for members of same household, lol any ideas how to ensure it isnt used for the wrong purposes ?
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