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Hi, Can you advise please, were thinking of going to lake Orta for 5 days from Dunkerque and then driving across to La rochele for 14 days of exploring. Do i need to go through the Mont Blaunk tunnel ? is there any advantage ? can i take another route! and can you recomend a scenic route into lake Orta! I belive some of you travel throgh mountins passess which are very scenic.
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Hi, You don't "need" to go through Mont Blanc, If you set your sat nav NOT to travel on Motorways you will have a very scenic route indeed with breathless scenery.
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Les
Getting worried also going to Italy from Dunkerque.
Don't do breathless, ie deep drops no railings. Bad enough on the bike, but the van is high enough to see the drops.
Think I may need another dose of hypnosis unless someone has some valium going begging
No need to get worried. No need to go through the Mont Blanc Tunnel. No need to go over high passes (though you can if you wish).
Just follow what is now known as 'the Russell route'.
Dunkerque, Lille, Mons, Charleroi, Namur - turn right - Ardennes - Arlon - Luxembourg (cheap fuel fags and booze) - Thionville - Metz (up to this point no motorway tolls) Metz - Strasbourg (toll) - Colmar - Basel (no toll)-(entering Switzerland 40 Fr/30 Euro 'vignette' valid for a year and includes Gothard Tunnel) - Basel - Luzern - St.Gothard road tunnel - Bellinzona - Chiasso - enter Italy at Como onto toll road 'autostrada' and Bob's your uncle.
saluti,
eddied
Thanks for that eddied. almost same route we took on the bike. Hoping to get to Rome this time, we love Italy, especially the wine. Have been on several holidays to different areas, first time for Rome though.
Have saved Russell's route, and shall be looking to spend some time meandering we have 2 months till we NEED to be back home. Then i'm off with the sagalasses to the canaries.
If it were me and although I haven't been this route, I would take the E62/A9 over the Col des Montets then across to Chamonix or carry on up the A9 to Lausanne and take it from there.
If it were me and although I haven't been this route, I would take the E62/A9 over the Col des Montets then across to Chamonix or carry on up the A9 to Lausanne and take it from there.
Pete
Thanks Pete, I think i have found a cenic route that avoids tunnel toll charges by using the D1006 through Lanslebourg-Mont-Cenis and onto the A43 then up to Chambery and across. I've had a look at the route on Google and it looks fine, some sharp corners but otherwise perfect.
A slight variation and one that I like is from Luxembourg, follow signs to Metz, the Metz airport, Chateau Salins, Phalsbourg and this missed the A4 motorway. Saves another few bob. There are also a couple of supermarkets en route with plenty of space for motorhomes to park.
Russell
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Over the years we have tried various routes and like so many hate tunnels especially after the Mont Blanc tragedy. Do enough "white knuckle rides" in Morocco. Our favoured route is Dijon - Lyon - Grenoble - Gap - D9008 Barcelonnette - Larche - Col de Larche [col Della Maddalene] - Cuneo - Mondovi - onto motorwayA6 E717 to whichever direction you choose.
This is a comfortable and scenic route without any horrors.
We shall use it again Sept this year.
Have fun
Hilary
No need to get worried. No need to go through the Mont Blanc Tunnel. No need to go over high passes (though you can if you wish).
Just follow what is now known as 'the Russell route'.
Dunkerque, Lille, Mons, Charleroi, Namur - turn right - Ardennes - Arlon - Luxembourg (cheap fuel fags and booze) - Thionville - Metz (up to this point no motorway tolls) Metz - Strasbourg (toll) - Colmar - Basel (no toll)-(entering Switzerland 40 Fr/30 Euro 'vignette' valid for a year and includes Gothard Tunnel) - Basel - Luzern - St.Gothard road tunnel - Bellinzona - Chiasso - enter Italy at Como onto toll road 'autostrada' and Bob's your uncle.
saluti,
eddied
Is this "Russell Route" still regarded as the best route from Calais to Lake Garda? We are travelling on Sunday with various stops en-route in Luxembourg, France & Switzerland arriving on the following Sunday. Have booked the sites along this route.
Has anyone noted the road numbers?
Is this still all "toll-free"?
Does the Swiss vignette cover all of the roads on this route & all other motorways in Switzerland?
Are there any other charges not mentioned?
Sorry for so many questions but spent last night comparing my AA Big Easy Read map of France with my Tom Tom & the Michelin online route planner & ended up with more questions than answers...............
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Greece
No need to get worried. No need to go through the Mont Blanc Tunnel. No need to go over high passes (though you can if you wish).
