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To me it was obvious before reading that sideways seat should not carry travelling passengers. This excellent article just proves it.
Unfortunately our van has two sideways bench seats.
Grandchildren have to be delivered and collected which means that for the last six years we rarely entertain them in the Camper Smile

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ched999uk wrote:
I seem to also remember that children can only travel with seat belts!! So it's OK for adults to travel in unbelted seats provided belted ones are unavailable but children must have seat belts.


There is also another part of the law on seat belts overlooked regarding children in vehicles. Parents seem to think that if a child is over a certain height that they can travel in a booster cushion, or a 3 point seatbelt in a child seat.

This rule only applies if the child is over 3, and 15kg or 33.069 Lbs (group 2-3 seat) otherwise the inertia will not work, this means that if a child who might be the legal height does not make the weight also they have to have a five point harness. I know that there is an overlap but this is a little known law. This applies to all vehicles fitted with seatbelts. Went into this at kiddicare a few weeks ago and also spoke at lengths with Britax Uk as we always believed this is not made clear that if the child was tall enough it is ok, its the weight that is the dominant factor not height but the law is not made clear.

Waste of time asking Vosa or even your local traffic police as when they do stop tests they use their local safety council inspector who is probaly taught by Britax UK. This is why you see so many children on a booster cushion who are of the age when the parents dont know about the weight to make the belt work. Although it looks legal its a child life they play with as the correct information is not made clear.

Just have a look on Youtube as manufacturers dont design seatbelts to work under 15kg....

Remember its 15kg child + child seat = STOP


Remember children under 15kg no matter how tall must be in a five point harness always.

Under three must be retstrained properly and take priority if belts are fitted always.

Children should not be in side ways facing belts (very grey area as not forward facing, its your child's life but as an adult you are able make your own decision).

Its a shame the law does not make this clear


I know about the 15kg + seat rule as i worked with crash test dummies for a while at millbrook bedfordshire.

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