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Hi to all,today i received a NIPS (notice of intended prosecution summons) notice from Northumbria police regarding me speeding in my Autotrail Chieftain.
I was on cruise control at 56 mph when the roadside gatso camera flashed me ! now i know that with my vehicle i should only do 50 mph on "A" roads but as usual i was chancing my luck 50 mph +2 + 10% speedo error = 57mph.
Reason for this posting is not to quibble about the lovely coloured photograph of me speeding, i'm guilty as stated, no reason for the posting is to warm all of you that the gatso's are programmed to catch you because of you size,this also applies to truckers to, so spare them a thought when you come up behind then sitting at 50mph as they are only staying at the legal limit for them.
So watch out folks,"Big Brother" is watching you !!
hi.
Thanks for the post,to ease your pain,as i have said before on another post,count the times you have,"Sinned",add up your fines,divide the fines by the "Sins",and Hey Presto,it should work out that each sin has cost....Pence. It always makes me feel better,but i have truly been a sinner,not just the speeding,so perhaps i have an advantage .
Gearjammer aka Sinner.
PS Better add. I do Not codone speeding,but,the more mileage you do,the greater the risk,its called "Law of averages".They had altered a 40 limit to 30 while i was away,when i saw a sign flashing "36" i knew something was wrong and dropped to 30,on the way back there were signs saying the new limit was 30,i had missed the signs at the other end stating this,close call.
Last edited by Jented on Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:14 pm; edited 1 time in total
Hi to all,today i received a NIPS (notice of intended prosecution summons) notice from Northumbria police regarding me speeding in my Autotrail Chieftain.
I was on cruise control at 56 mph when the roadside gatso camera flashed me ! now i know that with my vehicle i should only do 50 mph on "A" roads but as usual i was chancing my luck 50 mph +2 + 10% speedo error = 57mph.
Reason for this posting is not to quibble about the lovely coloured photograph of me speeding, i'm guilty as stated, no reason for the posting is to warm all of you that the gatso's are programmed to catch you because of you size,this also applies to truckers to, so spare them a thought when you come up behind then sitting at 50mph as they are only staying at the legal limit for them.
So watch out folks,"Big Brother" is watching you !!
How does the camera differentiate between a Motor Caravan limited to 50mph on an A type road and one that can do 60mph on the same road?
A Motor Caravan with an UNLADEN weight of 3.05t or less has a speed limit of 60mph on A class roads irrespective of its MGW.
However the Gatso is programmed, whether to detect height, actual weight or whatever makes no difference to the fact that a Motor Caravan with an unladen weight of 3.05t or less would have been legal.
Maybe he was on an A road . . . within a 30 limit!
Joking aside, Ray is right. It does sound a bit strange Metblue. Have you got a bit more information for us please.
It's a pretty sophisticated radar that can weigh an approaching vehicle. Must be more to it than at first appears.
Curious.
Dave
Dave, I am sure it does not detect the weight of the vehicle but its 'bulk' by sensors in the road surface and can therefore set the camera threshold to 60mph, 50 mph etc.
The picture will then be viewed back at base and a decision taken as to prosecute or not. A quick link to DVLA with registration number will not assist as it wil not show a Motor Caravans unladen weight which is the criteria for the maximum speed allowed.
In the Chausson Welcome range there were five models, three of which had an unladen weight of less than 3.05t and two which exceeded it. So three would be legal at 60mph in the OP's location.
One thing very interesting is that the 2012 Welcome range models have lost nearly 300kg of unladen [MIRO] weight from their 2011 ones due to the way the MIRO has now been standardised. This means that models that are exactly the same but different model years could have different speed limits.
Anyone who get flashed in similar circumstances as the OP should check the manufacturers MIRO weight and if less than 3.05t then fight the ticket as it is legally wrong.
The Police acknowledge the system is non-sensical and there was talk about a year ago of speed limits for Motor caravans being standardised to 65mph on motorways. This would be irrespective of their MIRO unladen weight. The situation is further confused because the MIRO figure, which is now standardised in line with an EC directive, is not the same as the legal definition of 'unladen' weight in UK law.
Ray
Goods vehicles upto 7.5t are ok for 50 mph on a national speed limit road. Is a 5000kg motorhome classed as a "goods vehicle" for this purpose or does the log book's "private heavy goods vehicle" change this?
Challenge it.
Russell
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(They must be expensive to install, which means they have to catch a lot of victims to make it worthwhile.)
The speed limit doesn't bother me with our van, but if there is to be a greater purge on overloaded motorhomes (as I think I read on here) that could be a worry for a lot of us with those detectors around.
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