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I'm with Bruce
Always had big bikes and sneered at twist and go scooters,
I now tow a Gilera VXR200 and love it.
Good acceleration + 80-85mph and handles like a crock of sh@~&. such a giggle
Alan H
I keep banging on about this issue but everyone seems to think its only axle weight and the carrying capacity of a rack that have to be taken into consideration. According to Witter with whom I have been in e mail contact it is noseweight that is an equally important factor. Look in your handbook for allowable noseweight.
Watling can of course build a different towbar but that will not get around the noseweight issue. Indeed it might make the situation worse as these bespoke towbars tend to be heavier thus reducing carrrying capability.
A Fiat restricts you to a noseweight of between 80 and 100kgs depending on the chassis. Bearing in mind a rack and towbar weigh in at around 60 kgs that leaves between 20kgs and 40kgs for a bike which is impossible. If you have an accident and your vehicle is overweight then you will be in considerable difficulty as regards payout.
Yes, I understand the Ducato/Boxer noseweight issue. They have also have a type approved Witter towbar to comply with this.
In my case the chassis is an Iveco Daily with twin wheels, a 3,700 kg maximum rear axle weight and a 3,000 kg towing capacity.
It seems less likely that this will have such a modest noseweight but I'll make sure I get this answered.
Witter have a technical department. Why not e mail them? I did and unfortuneately their helpful response snookered my aspitaions of carrying a scooter on a rack. However, better safe than sorry!
I don't mount my bike on a bracket off the towbar.
My motorhome has a Hope Safe-T bar fitted, and I had 2 wheel mounting brackets made, one for the front and one for the rear wheel. These just slip over the Safe-T bar. This means that there is no weight on my towbar, and more importantly, the bike's weight is distributed over the full length of the bike and not just pivoted off the two central towbar bolts.
Also as the bike is mounted much closer to the back of the motorhome it reduces the overhang and places less weight on the rear axle.
I don't mount my bike on a bracket off the towbar.
My motorhome has a Hope Safe-T bar fitted, and I had 2 wheel mounting brackets made, one for the front and one for the rear wheel. These just slip over the Safe-T bar. This means that there is no weight on my towbar, and more importantly, the bike's weight is distributed over the full length of the bike and not just pivoted off the two central towbar bolts.
Also as the bike is mounted much closer to the back of the motorhome it reduces the overhang and places less weight on the rear axle.
Can't show pictures of bike loaded as van is in the barn ,but here's a couple of photos to give you an idea.
The rear wheel bracket has a 20" upright to secure the bike upright, and there is a bolt through the clamping part to stop it moving.
Only the front wheel bracket is shown mounted as I haven't got room to photo the rear one. When loaded, the bike rear wheel only protrudes 4 inches out from the Safe T bar (10 inches out from the Hymer bumper).
The slight inward angle of the rear body of my Hymer allows my Honda 90 to be mounted very close to the back bumper with the front wheel angled turning the handlebars out of the way.
Last edited by Bill_H on Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:15 pm; edited 1 time in total
Can't show pictures of bike loaded as van is in the barn ,but here's a couple of photos to give you an idea.
The rear wheel bracket has a 20" upright to secure the bike upright, and there is a bolt through the clamping part to stop it moving.
Only the front wheel bracket is shown mounted as I haven't got room to photo the rear one. When loaded, the bike rear wheel only protruded 4 inches out from the Safe T bar.
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