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On the news this morning that french are considering a ban on sat navs. Rolling Eyes
 
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Which news and why?
R U sure its not the ban on speed trap detectors they're discussing
 
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NO....

It was satnavs that have camera detectors built in.. Then again that's most likely 50% + !!

And there is this thing about carrying a breath test (alcohol) kit !!
that may come into law later this year.. Rolling Eyes

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I did read on here I think that they might have a problem with sat navs which warn of speed traps in the mapping, Alan.
 
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Since you can now readily install apps on GPS equipped smartphones that will also alert you to camera locations, then presumably the French are also going to ban mobile phones! Realistically the most they could presumably do would be to make it an offence to have a satnav or mobile phone with the camera location software installed on it. You can just imagine the fun and games with motorists who get flagged down desperately trying to uninstall inconspicuously the software whilst coming to a halt!
 
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A crossed thread here I think. A Mod will sort it no doubt.

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As the proud? new owner of a TomTom Via and trying to get to grips with it I discovered that when you connect to TT "your tomtom" the speed camera locations in France are automatically deleted
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I understood from other sources, French media, motorhome magazines etc. that they want to ban satnavs with a built in camera detector, I didn't think this included satnavs with camera locations in the mapping or as POI. The two things are not the same. One is active and seeking out cameras, the other is passive and just suggests locations where cameras might be.

You can buy active detectors in the UK and presumably in France at the moment, these are not satnavs as hey have no mapping function just the
camera detection. But either way whatever happens all one has to do is turn off the camera warnings on the device and it should be OK.

Do any French memebers have any more information?

Further Info. i just found this, it's from a site called Pocketgpsworld, a UK site which is pretty good and worth a look.
I dont know that the information takes things much further, but, it gives a flavour of what the French have in mind.



"Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:28 pm Post subject:
From the AA Website:-
The French Embassy gives the following advice regarding use of radar detectors in France.
Under articles L413-2 and R413-15 of the French 'Code de la Route' (highway code), it is strictly forbidden to have such devices in cars in France, regardless of whether or not they are in use. Penalties can include fines of up to €3,000, confiscation of the device and of the vehicle.

This legislation does not apply to satellite navigation systems (SatNav or GPS). These can tell motorists only the location of fixed speed cameras, data which is already in the public domain."

I think i will check with the Embassy myself before I go to France this year, but it seems we should be OK.
 
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Tom Tom France says
Changes in French legislation
From 4th January 2012, a new French law makes it illegal to be aware of speed camera locations while driving. If your device has the TomTom Safety Cameras service, you violate the law if you continue to receive radar and warnings may result in a fine.

How to comply with the law
You must perform two actions:

Disable alerts for France Radar on your device. [How to ... ]


Update your GPS with the locations of the latest radar. This will remove your device's camera locations in France. [How to ... ]
Note: If you use TomTom HOME to manage content on your device, and n 'are not subscribed to update the radar, you must manually delete the file radars for France in order to comply with the law . [How to ... ]

We are currently developing a new service for France, which will warn of danger areas, rather than radar. To be informed of the latest on this service, subscribe to this page by clicking the link Warn bottom of the page. We'll e-mail when additional information becomes available.

Switzerland
In Switzerland, the use of the TomTom Safety Cameras service is prohibited and we do not offer this service in Switzerland.

Other countries
Most governments and local authorities believe that radar service TomTom makes driving safer. At TomTom, we respect the law (local) and when necessary, we adapt our attitude.

The British government allows the use of the TomTom Safety Cameras service if too fast to avoid dangerous behavior on the road. In Germany, the use of radar warning equipment, such as "Stingers", is prohibited by Article 23, para. 1b of traffic, but the software related to radars are not allowed. However, no legal precedent does not allow for the time to confirm it.

In addition, the Government of the United Kingdom provides the following services on Radar Systems navigation:
"The Government will not ban devices using GPS (Global Positioning System) to warn drivers of speed camera locations and speed limits known. In fact, they are consistent with the policy of the Government, which wants to ensure that the camera locations are visible to drivers, to help reduce speeding on the roads. "

However, you remain responsible for the use of the service TomTom Safety Cameras. This service can easily be disabled for each country on most of our GPS. [How to ... ]

Link
TomTom France link

In the link above the article is in French so the How to link is "Comme faire". Google Translate will do a translation if this all seems accurate we need to do a How to for all SATNAV systems I guess A Sticky requesting helpers for each system is needed?
I'll volunteer do TOMTOM Go 930T.....

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We have similar law, since 1991, banning the possession and use of devices which can detect speed monitoring meters.
Potential visitors to our Fair Isle see HERE for details of current penalties if caught.

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