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"We are all being encouraged to use less energy. There are schemes to help improve home insulation and to fit solar panels and the power hungry filament light bulb is no longer available, it being replaced by LEDs and low energy bulbs.
But hey what is happening on caravan sites, we have no alternative but to pay for our primary source of energy, electricity, and owners are stuffing their vans with electric appliances as a result. On the other hand there are many caravan owners who have good battery and solar panel systems and do not need or want hook ups all the time.
Should the club not be doing it’s bit by offering at least a few discounted, electricity free pitches on each site for those that are increasing prepared to go that extra mile and fit solar panels?"
Whilst I have targeted the CC should all sites not have an obligation to provide these?
peedee
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I agree it can be wasteful, and we've all seen the heaters going full blast in awnings . On most CCC sites there is the option to have a "standard" pitch, on grass with no electric, and we normally use these when on site for up to 2 days in the summer season. This is because - 1) we don't really need the electricity for heating, and can manage quite well without it, 2) why pay around £5 a night for something you don't need! and 3) in the summer period it's nicer parking up on grass than horrible gravel
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"We are all being encouraged to use less energy. There are schemes to help improve home insulation and to fit solar panels and the power hungry filament light bulb is no longer available, it being replaced by LEDs and low energy bulbs.
But hey what is happening on caravan sites, we have no alternative but to pay for our primary source of energy, electricity, and owners are stuffing their vans with electric appliances as a result. On the other hand there are many caravan owners who have good battery and solar panel systems and do not need or want hook ups all the time.
Should the club not be doing it’s bit by offering at least a few discounted, electricity free pitches on each site for those that are increasing prepared to go that extra mile and fit solar panels?"
Whilst I have targeted the CC should all sites not have an obligation to provide these?
peedee
The CC and other site owners rubbed their hands with glee when they introduced the combined pitch and electric fee under the excuse of complying with EU regulations. The potential income from each pitch was maximumised.
I am sure the CC response will be that they do have some non electric pitches available but of course they will not mention that these pitches are not in the most attractive parts of the site.
I just posted on the CC site. The formatting is all over the place though!
I dont stay on club sites as they are too expensive and regimented but I do stay on CL sites and look for the really basic ones with no EHU for about a fiver.
I agree, why pay for something you dont need?
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It is supply and demand,some sites were loseing trade because they did not have electric points,another plus is the fact that people with a medical need for power,can go further out into the country side to holiday at the remote CL/CS's.
We had a twin wheel c/van with Alde heating,during one winter rally,several members had to get gas from Ashbourne,me included and i had the genny working overtime,it was very "Power hungry",the plus side?,the pipes ran along under the front beds...... Sheer luxury!.
I think there should be some pitches with just grass or hardish standing,but as c/vans/m/homes become more complex there will be more demand for electric points. My preference is a farm field,tap in the corner,somwhere within 200yds to empty the cassete a view and just Jennifer and sass for company
Ted.
I've not voted, but I'd welcome it if only to stop folk moaning!!!
CC does have economy pitches on some sites, which come without hookup.
I suspect the answer is a bit analogous to one I come across in my industry, telecoms, though. People moan about having to take voice telephony service and the amount of their line rental, saying they'd just prefer to be able to do broadband only. But most of the cost of the voice service/line rental is actually the cost of the copper to your home...so without voice your broadband would have to go up by that much. So back on EHU, the CC has spent £Xmillion meeting customer demand to have an EHU facility, they need to recover those costs, and the incremental cost of you actually using it is minimal...few kWH = few tens of pence, so the discount you'd get is minimal.
The CC and other site owners rubbed their hands with glee when they introduced the combined pitch and electric fee under the excuse of complying with EU regulations. The potential income from each pitch was maximumised.
I don't think this is necessarily so, the CC made an operating loss on running its sites in 2008 and 2009. In 2009 this was much larger than in 2008 and it was all put down to the increased cost of site electricty.
I also recently stayed on a CL where the owner apologised that they would have to put up their charges on Jan 1st from £10 to £12 per night due the cost of electric. So I don't think they are rubbing their hands with glee although the provision of hook ups does seem to increase pitch occupancy.
peedee
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I think we should be given the choice on all pitches to have hookup or without hookup or they should fit meters.
We pulled into a CL after ringing them first and explaining what outfit we had . once we pulled into the CL the owner demanded we pay a extra £2 pn because we would use more electric .
I refused to pay the extra £2 pn as he could not tell me why he thought I would use more elec than the caravan parked next to me
We have 3 solar panels and everything works on 12v apart from the fridge we run it on 240 if we are on hookup.
I think we should be given the choice on all pitches to have hookup or without hookup or they should fit meters.
Why should you? Sites are commercial we live in a democracy use sites that offer the services that you want. Why should a site owner be forced to spend money that they don't need to, to save you spending money you don't need to?
This is an old chestnut and PeeDee and I have happily discussed this a number of times, however, people that don't want electricity are in a minority to those that do.
Having owned a campsite for the last few years I speak from experience.
It is zero degree's today and I guarantee that if the wardens turned the electric off they would be lynched!
I liken it to going into a fish restaurant and telling them that I disagree with their menu and wanted Southern Fried Chicken and arguing with them when told they don't offer that!
We don't like the idea of meters as they are inconvenient for everyone guests as well as our staff
The Caravan Club has made it public, their huge electricity bill. they also encouraging us to be greener so why not a choice with or without electric hook ups. After all we are motorhomers not holiday makers?
By the way the electric heater in the awning drying the washing is probably my mate, he does it even in the height of the summer, they insist as they are paying for the facilities they are going to use it
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. On most CCC sites there is the option to have a "standard" pitch, on grass with no electric, and we normally use these when on site for up to 2 days in the summer season. This is because - 1) we don't really need the electricity for heating, and can manage quite well without it, 2) why pay around £5 a night for something you don't need! and 3) in the summer period it's nicer parking up on grass than horrible gravel
