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1197359 Post Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:21 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote Back To Top

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Having re read Rays post my reply was not correct but for some reason I am unable to delete it, so I have deitted the text out.

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In the UK we always used the term Gross Vehicle Weight in the past. When we agreed to combine our rules to those used in the EU the term Maximum Authorised Mass was agreed on !

They mean exactly the same and MAM has been the "standard" across the EU for many years now
 
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Mrplodd wrote:
Sorry to disagree with you Ray BUT

MAM (GVW) and Train weight are NOT the same.

MAM (GVW) refers to the maximum weight of the vehicle on its own.

Train weight refers to to maximum weight of vehicle PLUS the weight of any trailer.

My Autotrail has a MAM (GVW) of 4000 Kg and a Train weight of 6000 Kg (or thereabouts, its not parked outside at the moment so I cant check)

If you check your vehicle VIN plate it will (usually) have 4 numbers.

1. Is the max front axle weight
2. Is the max rear axle weight
3. Is the GVW (MAM) which will always be less than the above two numbers added together to allow for load distribution
4. Is the TRAIN weight (vehicle PLUS trailer)

By subtracting No.3 from No.4 you get the maximum total weight of any trailer you can tow behind it.

Its therefore possible to have a licence to drive a vehicle with a max GVW of 3500Kg (if its a licence obtained after 1 Jan 97) that has a TRAIN weight of over 4 tonnes (but to tow that trailer you will need to pass a further test!)

Simples ????? No way !!!!


Ray has quoted directly from the link that he posted. He makes the point that it is in relation to driving licences.
 
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I agree 100% and realise that I had not properly read Rays post before adding my post
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I have since tried to delete my post but for some reason I am unable to do so. Therefore I have edited the text out (see above confession ) Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed

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Mrplodd wrote:
Cronkle

I agree 100% and realise that I had not properly read Rays post before adding my post
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I have since tried to delete my post but for some reason I am unable to do so. Therefore I have edited the text out (see above confession ) Embarassed

Doesnt sackcloth and ashes itch ???????


No problems. It may have been better if I had not pasted the whole paragraph and stopped before "The plate or sticker may also show a gross train weight (GTW)" which had no relevance to the question.


By the way it wasn't you responsible for the gas leak on Canford Bottom roundabout was it? Is your office responsible for ensuring the CAT scan is carried out before digging commenced. Very Happy


I tried to post this but I got the auto response from Nuke that I couldn't as it has too many smilies in it - only 15 allowed apparently so have deleted a few of Mr Plodds quote Smile


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Another thing that is different apparently. After a couple of month's SORN I went down to the postoffice in the village, not being able to tax it online.

Opps Dot said I can't do this (6000kg PHGV) you'll have to send it off. I put my winning smile on and she relented "if all they have got to do is chase me down good luck to them" and stamped my disc! "But I shouldn't" she said with a giggle Wink

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Hi, I had a problem with the same info,mine is over 3.500,but after going to my local dvla and showing them a picture of the motorhome they told me to send the picture with a letter to swansea,my logbook i.e v55 now reads motorhome private hgv it is the motorhome bit thats important to dvla,and tax at any post office,hope this helps.regards H Rolling Eyes
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Hi, I had a problem with the same info,mine is over 3.500,but after going to my local dvla and showing them a picture of the motorhome they told me to send the picture with a letter to swansea,my logbook i.e v55 now reads motorhome private hgv it is the motorhome bit thats important to dvla,and tax at any post office,hope this helps.regards H Rolling Eyes
 
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Didnt have any sort of problem with taxing mine (4000kg) at the Poast office after a period of SORN !!


Ray

NO it was nuffink to do wiv me guv !!!! honest Laughing
 
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Mrplodd wrote:
In the UK we always used the term Gross Vehicle Weight in the past. When we agreed to combine our rules to those used in the EU the term Maximum Authorised Mass was agreed on !

They mean exactly the same and MAM has been the "standard" across the EU for many years now



Tfl are still using GVW in relation to the LEZ legislation.

When did the agreement to use MAM come into effect?

I wonder whether GVW still has legal effect? or could it make Tfl legislation invalid as being uncertain in law? Unless there was some provision in the legislation for GVW to still be valid.

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