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107163 PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:28 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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But is an RV classed as a conditioned vehicle?
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107165 PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:34 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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Do you mean refrigerated? Rolling Eyes

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107168 PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:41 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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yes
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107171 PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:48 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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OK. No. Smile

Or at least, I really can't see how!

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107173 PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:56 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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Well there is a unit (or two) on top of the RV's that cool the vehicle. Doesn't this count?
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107185 PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:43 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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No.

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/sr/sr1999/19990454.htm#7

In such matters I have yet to find any significant difference between Ireland and UK.

"In this regulation "refrigerated vehicle" means any vehicle which is specially designed for the carriage of goods at low temperature and of which the thickness of each of the side walls, inclusive of insulation, is at least 45mm."

Applying that definition to a RV or motorhome with aircon is stretching incredulity.

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107188 PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:00 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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Here are the links from a post I made last year on another forum, its about oversized RV's

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This actually gives a legal precedent to say the vehicle is OK, so the DVLA would be in breach of a legal precedent if they pull a vehicle turning a blind eye as been given the legal go ahead.

Very sad for the chap concerned, his last post before the bailiffs took hid computer away was on the motorcaravaning forum, he was discussing the bailiffs being in his house....


here is a quote from the Judges ruling in Bramhill v Edwards and Edwards (Destination RV)

Giving judgment, Lord Justice Auld noted that there was "ample evidence, albeit of a secondary and circumstantial nature … that the authorities had turned a blind eye to wide-spread breaches of the regulations and that that was well-known to enthusiasts"
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107199 PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:27 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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Quote:

In such matters I have yet to find any significant difference between Ireland and UK.



Maybe I am wrong but I do think that there is some differences in both registration systems.

One major one is that a motorhome in Ireland is not subject to an m.o.t. so the checks are not as stringent.
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107259 PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:21 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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GeorgeTelford wrote:

here is a quote from the Judges ruling in Bramhill v Edwards and Edwards (Destination RV)

Giving judgment, Lord Justice Auld noted that there was "ample evidence, albeit of a secondary and circumstantial nature … that the authorities had turned a blind eye to wide-spread breaches of the regulations and that that was well-known to enthusiasts"


George,

I'm sorry but I've left my wig and gown at court Embarassed

On the strength of the above would YOU try importing an RV measuring 102" into the UK?

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I just wish I understood what it all means?? Embarassed Embarassed

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107272 PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:57 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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Hi Mick

2.55 meter = 100.393 700 787 inch Though 100.4" seems to be legaly acceptable

What can I say if the body (Box) is 102 Inches and regardless of anything that sticks out, on paper its ilegal.

But by legal precedent of the apeal court Judge who said that a blind eye is being turned thus implying that its legal now by precedent and that he could have quite happily driven this supposedly ilegal vehicle.

At some point that precedent could be overturned (as it does fly in the face of the law as written) In which case many vehicles in UK would have to be exported to get anything ( £$ )back on them.

In 45 years its been OK never a real court case, but its your call as Harry Callahan once said

"you've got to ask yourself a question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?"

Fun quote no offence intended


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