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159541 PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:43 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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Interesting point about the speed limits... I have just looked here http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/09.htm and find that whilst there is no suitable definition of a motorhome or RV, it would seem that as our vehicles are going to be over 2 tons, then we are all regulated to a lower speed than a car on single and dual carriageway roads....
You learn something every day eh??? Great peice of info I think...

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Tricky point there, Keith. It says "... (including car-derived vans up to 2 tonnes) ..". Note the parentheses. That's a specific case. I don't drive a car-derived van. I drive a van-derived motorhome.

I don't tow, I don't drive a goods vehicle nor a bus/coach. So it's 30/60/70/70 for me.

I think. Confused

Thanks for the link, Keith.

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Hi Gerald
That was my thinking until I read the above info, now I am convinced that because my RV weighs more that 2 tons (by a long way Laughing Laughing ), whatever we feel it is called, then I am limited to 30,50,60,&70 respectively..... I cannot see that with such an ambiguous set of headings you could possibly get out of it if your vehicle weighs over 2 tons, which it clearly does.......
So with that in mind I guess my fuel consumption will increase anyway Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Hi, Keith

I think that the brackets mean the 2 tonnes applies ONLY to car-derived vans. The
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weighs over 2.5 tonnes. What's that restricted to?

Ambiguity in the regulations. Who'd a' thought it?

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There is no ambiguity in the regulations that I can see, its just the highwaycode is not a complete set of rules. This subject has come up again and again I wish there was an FAQ section here.

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Everybody should know their speed limits but I came across a guy only a day or so ago who thought the speed limit for a car on a single carriageway was 50mph (well it was for a time when Harold Wilson was PM) I couldn't persuade him otherwise.

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Yes, I've enjoyed this thread.

I also passed it to George, but have yet to hear his reaction.

Similarly, I have yet to hear any reply from the DoT or DVLA beyond an automated "endeavour to reply withing 3 working days".

I will sit on my humble pie pending these contributions Smile

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Thanks for that, Frank. Seems there's another weight limit we should be aware of - our MH unladen, which limits our dual carriageway speed to 60 instead of 70 if we're over 3050kg Rolling Eyes

Must check my plate.

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What's the legal definition of unladen for a motorcaravan? Rolling Eyes

Oh, and sprokit, in gauging the size of this humble pie, I am having trouble tracking down the legal status of grandfather rights. Was the pre-97 situation on vehicle classes and licence (and the relationship or not in law then between motorhomes and goods vehicles) mapped explicitly, in law, to the post-97 licence/ vehicle weight situation, which does, in that SI, seem admirably clear?

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DABurleigh wrote:
What's the legal definition of unladen for a motorcaravan? Rolling Eyes

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I've asked the D&C police

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