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The great width debate is still going strong but surely the important question is, are these over width motorhomes which are already registered and on the road, legal or illegal?
Having just purchsed one. am I breaking the law? did the dealer I purchased from break the law? Or is this now getting out of hand and we should enjoy our RV's and life which is why we bought one in the first place.
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152055 PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:50 am Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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The great width debate is still going strong but surely the important question is, are these over width motorhomes which are already registered and on the road, legal or illegal?
Having just purchsed one. am I breaking the law? did the dealer I purchased from break the law? Or is this now getting out of hand and we should enjoy our RV's and life which is why we bought one in the first place.
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When you find out, let me know will ya! Very Happy
Love the bus, love the lifestyle...........but that little voice keeps saying "what if........". Rolling Eyes
I suppose to some degee, it depends on the SMMT list for your rig. I asked yesterday about mine and luckily I'm "in", at least on sidewalls, so at worst, the awning and fittings might have to come off. Not really that big a deal - especially the awning being as how it tries to take off like a demented hang glider if a mouse f@rts 4 miles away!
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"are these over width motorhomes which are already registered and on the road, legal or illegal?"
Illegal, if the total width excluding mirrors and lights exceeds 2550mm/ 100.4".

"Having just purchsed one. am I breaking the law?"
If using it in the UK, yes.

"did the dealer I purchased from break the law?"
No, not unless you asked whether it was legal and he affirmed it was.

"Or is this now getting out of hand and we should enjoy our RV's and life which is why we bought one in the first place."
Personal decision, I'm afraid!

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[quote="DABurleigh"]"are these over width motorhomes which are already registered and on the road, legal or illegal?"
Illegal, if the total width excluding mirrors and lights exceeds 2550mm/ 100.4".

"Having just purchsed one. am I breaking the law?"
If using it in the UK, yes.

"did the dealer I purchased from break the law?"
No, not unless you asked whether it was legal and he affirmed it was.

"Or is this now getting out of hand and we should enjoy our RV's and life which is why we bought one in the first place."
Personal decision, I'm afraid!

Dave,

What about the warning on the SMMT web page
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IMPORTANT: Anyone selling (or offering to supply) a vehicle is responsible for ensuring that it complies with all applicable laws. It is an offence under the Road Traffic Act 1988 if a vehicle offered for sale is too long or too wide.

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152086 PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:47 am Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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Mick,

I said what I did on the basis of that infamous bit of case law in Bramhill v Edwards and Edwards (Destination RV), in which the RV buyer took the dealer to court for selling a too-wide vehicle and lost the shirt off his back.

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As you can see from point 2 above, that the dealer got off scot free because the buyer was expected to know about these things really wound me up. But the dealer won!
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Whether if the RV owner had pursued the case under the Road Traffic Act instead of the Sale of Goods Act the outcome would have been any different, we shall never know!

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Dave,

My friend please don't go all techie and George T on me Smile

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I visited my local RV a few weeks ago and mentioned the 'warning' given on the SMMT site, the salesman just laughed and said," We've got all ours registered"

I can only presume that nothing will happen until the authorities take a dealer / customer to court as a test case.

Until then the dealers will continue to get away with murder and the private iimporter will get hammered by the DVLA.

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