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161743 PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:48 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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I'm looking into up rating our Timberland Fiat Ducato LWB 2.8 JTD Panel Van from 3300kg to 34oo/3500kg. I'm hoping just a change of tyre size might do it. I've contacted http://www.svtech.co.uk/ for advice.

I can do with just a bit more payload these days.

Anybody got any thoughts on the subject please.

We are off on our travels tomorrow for two weeks but I'd like some info while we are away. I'm taking the laptop and I've sussed out a few hotspots along the way.

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Hi Don,

If I were in your situation in addition to the increased payload option i'd also look at the cost/practicality of having a small trailer on the back. Both have their pros and cons i suppose.

Just a thought.

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[quote="peejay"]Hi Don,

If I were in your situation in addition to the increased payload option i'd also look at the cost/practicality of having a small trailer on the back. Both have their pros and cons i suppose.

Just a thought.

pete[/quot

Thanks Pete but I've got this box on the back.



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Hi Don!

I had my Nuevo uprated from 3200 to 3495 (via SVTech) - to just keep it under the 3500! - that way there is no argument.
In my case I only had to fit higher rated tyres.
I was OK on the MAM, but a bit close on the rear axle weight with the van and big back box loaded for touring.
It's unlikely I'll carry much more anyway, but the added peace of mind is a bonus.

I also have Air-Rides fitted, which makes all the difference to the ride and stability.

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RobMD wrote:
Hi Don!

I had my Nuevo uprated from 3200 to 3495 (via SVTech) - to just keep it under the 3500! - that way there is no argument.
In my case I only had to fit higher rated tyres.
I was OK on the MAM, but a bit close on the rear axle weight with the van and big back box loaded for touring.
It's unlikely I'll carry much more anyway, but the added peace of mind is a bonus.

I also have Air-Rides fitted, which makes all the difference to the ride and stability.


Hi Rob,

Thanks for that.

I've have 205/70 R15C 106/104 Q tyres at present, I'm hoping I might just be able to up rate to 215/70 R15C 109/107 Q.

My Max front axle weight is 1750kg and the rear is 1850kg.

At present when loaded for the off we are at Front 1650kg and 1620kg rear so I've got plenty of spare at the back end.

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161778 PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:58 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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RobMD wrote:
Hi Don!

I had my Nuevo uprated from 3200 to 3495 (via SVTech) - to just keep it under the 3500! - that way there is no argument.
In my case I only had to fit higher rated tyres.
I was OK on the MAM, but a bit close on the rear axle weight with the van and big back box loaded for touring.
It's unlikely I'll carry much more anyway, but the added peace of mind is a bonus.

I also have Air-Rides fitted, which makes all the difference to the ride and stability.


Rob,

Did you notify your insurers before the work was carried and contact DVLA afterwards. Question

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Tyres again!
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Don are the axle weights you quote the ones you will end up with? If they are, the tyres you have will cope with the load won't they? I know we have spoken about this on another forum but I can't recall the reason for the upgrade. I have managed to upgrade my Pollensa to 3500 via SvTech but this will mean my back axle max load goes up to 1900kgs total. I will have to upgrade the tyres to 205/70 R15 C 106/104R. I thought (on the advice of a local tyre dealer) that I would be able to get 205/65 or 195/70 at the increased load rating and thus maintain the overall diameter. I spoke to a very helpful man in the Dunlop Tech department and he says there is no such thing as the tyres I want but that the 205/70s will make very little difference to the diameter and thus the speedo error.

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167686 PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:13 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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Greenleas wrote:
Don are the axle weights you quote the ones you will end up with? If they are, the tyres you have will cope with the load won't they? I know we have spoken about this on another forum but I can't recall the reason for the upgrade. I have managed to upgrade my Pollensa to 3500 via SvTech but this will mean my back axle max load goes up to 1900kgs total. I will have to upgrade the tyres to 205/70 R15 C 106/104R. I thought (on the advice of a local tyre dealer) that I would be able to get 205/65 or 195/70 at the increased load rating and thus maintain the overall diameter. I spoke to a very helpful man in the Dunlop Tech department and he says there is no such thing as the tyres I want but that the 205/70s will make very little difference to the diameter and thus the speedo error.


Mike,

I'm just in the process of having my Timberland's MAM/GVW uprated from 3300kg to 3500kg (the maximum I'm allowed to drive on my over 70 licence) the front and rear axle weights will remain the same but I've gained 200kg on the MAM/GVW.

There's no alterations needed to the van, it's just a straight forward change of the vehicle identification plate.

The upgrade is being carried out by SvTech
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and will cost £200.

In my case I just completed a form giving details of the van and sent that and a copy of the registration certificate and they will send me a new plate.

For those interested the vehicle weights are now

MAM 3500 kg

GTW 5300 kg

Max front axle 1750 kg

Max rear axle 1850 kg

Tyres are 205/70R15C 106/104 Q

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