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190756 PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:47 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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Hi torquayite

Hmmm

What a shocking suggestion. Shocked Shocked Shocked

You wouldn't by any chance be related to a recent poster on a certain other motorhome site who has problems keeping the saucepans still whilst cooking on the move would you................... Cool

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A long time ago when I was on an Intruder Alarm training course, the instructor said that if it wasn't for the trade's Code of Practice he wouldn't particularly bother with external bells and sirens. His premise was that usually no one acts upon hearing a neighbour's alarm and that it was better to encourage the miscreant to decamp the scene as quickly as possible. He recommended an internal sounder that started off at a low level of sound and increased in volume over about 30 seconds until it wasn't physically possible to stay underneath it.
This meant that an intruder wouldn't suffer ear damage involuntarily as he had ample time to leave the scene before the racket became unbearable.
Some of us had a listen to such a sounder and the noise eventually mildly disorientates you.
Please, nobody ask what sounder it was as I left the trade years ago and can't remember ever using the sounder myself.

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Moledrain wrote:
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Some of us had a listen to such a sounder and the noise eventually mildly disorientates you.
Pete


Pete...I can confirm that. Following instructions here on the site we fitted a personal attack alarm - cheap, Yale, freely available - on the inside of the habitation door. The pull cord can be hooked over a stick-on hook attached to the bulkhead behind the driver. When anyone opens the door the plug is pulled out of the alarm and it goes off. We use it when we are in the van at night and if we leave the van in a car park. This is in addition to the usual alarm systems.

When we tried it out it was so loud that we both felt sick from the effects. It would certainly wake us up and we hope it would scare off a thief and /or attract the attention of others on site.

We have 2 more to fit to the cab doors to be used in the same circumstances.

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Hi and an alternative suggestion with the added advantage of settling the
gas issue once and for all.

Tie the inside of the door to an anesthetic gas cylinder so that the gas is released when the door is forced. You can then pick his pockets while he's asleep, steal his motor vehicle if it's parked nearby and, finally, offer the miscreant tea and sympathy next day when he's wandering around with his head in his hands saying " I just don't know what happened"

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Moledrain wrote:
A long time ago when I was on an Intruder Alarm training course, the instructor said that if it wasn't for the trade's Code of Practice he wouldn't particularly bother with external bells and sirens. His premise was that usually no one acts upon hearing a neighbour's alarm and that it was better to encourage the miscreant to decamp the scene as quickly as possible. He recommended an internal sounder that started off at a low level of sound and increased in volume over about 30 seconds until it wasn't physically possible to stay underneath it.
This meant that an intruder wouldn't suffer ear damage involuntarily as he had ample time to leave the scene before the racket became unbearable.
Some of us had a listen to such a sounder and the noise eventually mildly disorientates you.
Please, nobody ask what sounder it was as I left the trade years ago and can't remember ever using the sounder myself.



Pete



Sonalert was one we used to fit they had a variety of models right up to the threshold of pain.

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What about the poor innocent dog who decides to cock his leg as he passes your vehicle and can't read the warning notice - or the owner who just happens to be holding him with a metal chain lead?

I saw a video a couple of years ago of carjacking deterrents in South Africa showing a button on the dashboard which ignited gas powered jets below the sills of the car and any potential carjacker was fried as he tried to open the door. I seem to remember it was legally sold by the car accessory shops. So much for human rights but when faced with a gun wielding hijacker, seems a good idea.

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i have worked for a company that install this type of fence to airports warehouses ect
but prefer the trip wire fixed to a trigger and empty shotgun cartridge for the garage as sold in the motorcycle mags
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I remember some years back when i lived in yorkshire , a guy wired his car door handle to the mains , it was spotted by a copper ,he was reported and he was told to remove it or be prosecuted , but that was 240 volts , the 12volt system you are on about might be ok . but i would talk to a solicitor or someone who knows the law first.

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exmusso wrote:
What about the poor innocent dog who decides to cock his leg as he passes your vehicle and can't read the warning notice - or the owner who just happens to be holding him with a metal chain lead?


Cheers,
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