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keith
you were quick enough to comment to us all on sat morning regarding fri night even though you knew that i never returned from birmingham hospital until late. and that we stayed out chatting (which wasn't too late anyhow), and knowing that we were returning to the hospital sun you kept us awake until gone 1 am. which might be a regular occurance to yourselves but gave no respect at all, therefore we will not be attending this meet as we might need to rise early.
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Well this is a surprise Alan.
Where do I start?
Firstly I believe that you went to the hospital on Saturday, not Sunday because when you got back, on Saturday evening, myself and some others asked you and your wife how her mother was and you told us. We asked if you were visiting every day and the reply was "No we are taking it in turns with the rest of the family to spread it out", therefore I would dispute your claim that I knew you had to get up early on Sunday.
If you were so upset about the group outside my van on Saturday night (there were 12 of us not just me...) why did you not say anything to me on Sunday when I saw you? The comments I made to you on Saturday morning were, as you well know, said in jest with a big grin on my face, as were the comments along the same lines that were made by others at the same time. I think that you are big enough to have commented if in fact you were that bothered. I also seem to remember that we broke up our BBQ on Saturday night approximately 15 minutes after you and your friends returned from the other BBQ that had been held.
Regarding Saturday morning, just to keep the record straight, you lot were partying until past 2 AM, so I think that you are well used to staying up late, contrary to your claim of "as me and the wife are not used to the noise at 1 am in the morning like of which came from your van".
I find your story to be a complete fabrication and I am astounded that you are not only trying to make me look bad with inaccurate postings but that your comments will also lead to other people possibly not wishing to attend meets, which is why I have challenged your statements.
We have run and been involved in quite a number of meets and rallies and we have never received any complaints until yours. I find the manner and timing of your statements to be suspicious and I believe that there is a hidden agenda going on here. I am possibly better informed about the subject of noise whilst attending rallies than you are so please do not try to show yourself as the perfect guy here.
I also notice that one of your friends has requested that he be removed from this meet and I will do that shortly. I feel that it is a petty that neither of you had taken the opportunity to voice your alleged complaints to me personally when we spoke on the Sunday morning, however this just firms up my belief that a hidden agenda is being played out.
As I have removed you from this meet, as per your request, I see no reason for any further discussion, and any discussion about a different rally is technically off topic.
You have my contact details should you wish to discuss this further, although for the life of me I cannot think of anything more to say following your posts.
Keith
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keith
you were quick enough to comment to us all on sat morning regarding fri night even though you knew that i never returned from birmingham hospital until late. and that we stayed out chatting (which wasn't too late anyhow), and knowing that we were returning to the hospital sun you kept us awake until gone 1 am. which might be a regular occurance to yourselves but gave no respect at all, therefore we will not be attending this meet as we might need to rise early.
Hi Alan, You didnt keep me awake or wake me on Friday night. (The RV's Double Glazed ) and I am very sorry if you were disturbed on Saturday.
I was at Keith's RV along with others on Saturday and it didnt seem particularly noisy at all. I was under the impression that any campers who were not at Keiths were up with Richard and Mary. However I do recall being surprised by the time when I went to bed, and in all honesty I thought it was around 11pm rather than 1am, but time does fly when you have had a beer and are enjoying yourself
I appreciate that a dozen people talking and laughing can be really frustrating especially if you are trying to sleep. I think it fair to say that had anyone known you were there trying to sleep then there would have been no noise at all. It makes sense that you should have said something at the time, I do not know you, but it seems that you know Keith and had you told him or Sharon then I am sure that they would have respected your wishes entirely. I think that you are being far to inviduous in aiming your protest soley at Keith.
Sian and I, 1/6th of the dozen, apologise unreservedly for keeping you awake.
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feel i have to pull out of this 1 as me and the wife are not used to the noise at 1 am in the morning like of which came from your van on sat at stratford
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i also agree will you remove us as well !!!!
brian & lisa
Is this a wind up boys and girls? if its not then someone is having there chain well and truly pulled, and im not at all happy the way its going,
Alan / Brian what makes you think that any remarks made to you regarding Friday night were anything other than the normal remarks following your late evenings Stratford not being the first,they were given in jest and received as such or so it appeared I am concerned that following Keiths remark re hidden angenda, has something been said off the forum if so what? and by whom? I believe your remarks about alleged noise from Keiths van Saturday night are merely retaliatory, you having been led to believe we as a group or individuals made a complaint, I can confirm that other than the jokey remarks to you Sat am nothing has been said to anyone
Lets not fall out and give satisfaction to who ever started this nonsense,
if you don't want to discuss this in open forum e-mail me not PM your version i would be very interested, there were many others there whats your take on this?????
Geo
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Hi Alan, We too were at Keith and Sharons RV on Saturday night as you know and I would echo all the words of Jimjam.
Both Bryan and I feel really bad that you were inconvenienced but I feel even worse that KandS are getting the blame levied at them as they were just one of around 6 couples sitting around chatting.
Its really sad that you are cancelling a meet on the basis of Saturday night especially when most of the people who caused you concern are not even attending that particular meet and when you haven't allowed us the opportunity to show you that we can all be sensitive to your needs.
I am really sorry I hope to see you again at another meet.
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Hi All, we were out until around 1.15am having a chat and a giggle on Friday outside our own van which was inline with Alans which in an open field where everything is still noice travels and it is louder than you realise ,,, but hey aint this what camping is all about As for saturday night we came back from Richard Mary BBQ around 12.30 in which Kands had a few round his van doing very much the same until about 1am .I am aware that comments were made about us on Saturday morning for being loud Friday evening,which does get annoying when all we were doing is having a good time with friends which we only get to see and have met on Mhf ....However this seems to be getting out of hand and needs to be resolved amicably as we are all FRIENDS Ash & Lynn
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However this seems to be getting out of hand and needs to be resolved amicably as we are all FRIENDS Ash & Lynn
And i will be the first to second that
Geo
perhaps we could talk to the Rally/Meet marshals and if necessary have a Social and a Quiet side (Note I didn't say Anti Social side) to future venues, but I don't think it should be reqd personally as this means more rules and we all know what rules are meant to be don't we?
Geo
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