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All in all it seems just another grey area in the world of motorhoming..,.
Russell
Sorry Russel, there's nothing grey at all about it.
The UK RV dealers have been lying to the buying public for years (me included! )and are STILL getting away with it. It's about time they were bought to task by the law. Only then will anything be done about this issue one way or the other. .......and I'm really not convinced as to which way it would go!
Even the new Monaco spouts that it's legal cos it now has a roof mounted sun canopy........so why when you look at ANY RV or motorhome magazine do you still see RV's for sale with side mounted sun canopies and slide out canopies when the new wording CLEARLY says that it is illegal to knowingly sell (or adverise for sale) and overwidth vehicle?
........and another thing. I've seen a copy of a letter from Mike Snell (Senior Vice President of Monaco corporation) that states that they do NOT recomend that slide out toppers are removed to make the vehicle UK legal because the sidewall seals cannot cope on thier own!
Would you buy a Ģ100,000+ vehicle knowing that?
EVERY one of ther UK dealers has inserted wording on thier websites to the affect that it's up to purchasers to verify dimensions and legality.
This is utterly disgracefull and people are STILL being misled. I only wish that I wasn't as green as I was when I took the dealers word on legality because I WOULD have walked away.
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All in all it seems just another grey area in the world of motorhoming..,.
Russell
Russell,
Not really, if you wish to pay the high price of buying from a UK dealer then there is no problem once the RV is registered, it's only those poor private importers who wish to have the same rights as those UK dealers to import from the USA who have to worry
Because the BIG dealers have told the DVLA that ALL the RVs they import are legal the DVLA except that, the small dealer and private importer get measured
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Bringing together 2 RV problems, ie, Width and Overhang.
Leaving out any discussion of how some dealers get away with it -
If it is illegal to 'offer for sale' or sell oversize vehicles, how do you as an owner get rid of it?
Olley- I feel it is a bit naive to keep quoting the court case where the judges ruled that the width had no bearing on that claim - if there is damage to the side of any vehicle then the insurance company could claim that illegal width was a factor and refuse to pay
To explain my interest - when the wife suggested buying a 'camper' she was thinking 'Dormobile' and when I agreed I was thinking'Winnebago'!!
We have compromised for the time being but I still like the idea of a bigger, but legal, van.
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HI alutymer, sorry don't agree, the judges clearly stated that width was not a reason to void the insurance, and NFU stated the same, so therefore if I have an accident no matter what gets damaged they will not refuse to pay because of over width. (They might for other reasons)
Hi Zaskar are you saying that if you had know yours was over width you wouldn't have bought it? I did some research before we bought ours and decided over width or not, If we found one we liked we would buy it.
Its called "Risk Assessment" whats the chances of the DVLA saying its illegal? and the same goes for the insurance. If they do I poop out. My money, my risk.
I think if you you are going to worry about width, length, overhang, fuel, position of the TV plus no doubt a host of other minor infringments.
DON'T BUY ONE.
Olley
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All in all it seems just another grey area in the world of motorhoming..,.
Russell
Russell,
Not really, if you wish to pay the high price of buying from a UK dealer then there is no problem once the RV is registered, it's only those poor private importers who wish to have the same rights as those UK dealers to import from the USA who have to worry
Because the BIG dealers have told the DVLA that ALL the RVs they import are legal the DVLA except that, the small dealer and private importer get measured
It is a very interesting subject, all in all.
I don't want to start a bun fight, but is there any risk that you could buy an RV - already registered etc - and then have it measured at a later date - a random check for example?
Russell
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Hi Russell, never heard of it but its possible, if they did and felt really nasty, and you were over width they could hit you with a PG9. (it means you ain't going nowhere mate) lowloader job.
Olley
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Its called "Risk Assessment" whats the chances of the DVLA saying its illegal? and the same goes for the insurance. If they do I poop out. My money, my risk.
Olley
Interesting attitude. So your admittedly illegal RV is involved in a fatal accident. Your insurance company refuses to pay out. Surely it's the victims dependents who lose out.
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"the big dealers are allowed by the DVLA to simply register their vehicle's without inspection"
Olley - that is certainly not what Travelworld said. They said they had to drive the things to the DVLA offices for measurement just as everyone has to.
Dave
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I think I have already said this on another thread but for those who missed it.
The SMMT at the beginning of 2006 at the request of the DVLA drew up a list of ALL motor-homes British, European and American which they called a REGISTER.
Now the author of this register is a Mr Carmelo Aquilina.The register shows the widths and lengths of each MH then places the MH's in either the 'approved' or 'over-sized' list depending on their size.
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