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The first thing, as I see this, is that if the two van owners are buying a daily ticket - and displaying it on the van, then no offence is commited.
If the council want them off, they would first have to impost a "maximum stay" limit and a "no return with xxxxx" etc
I agree with Russ on this.
We have stayed on many French aires for longer than 24hrs as I'm sure many others have .. many stay several weeks without anyone complaining.
I fail to see what 'crime' has actually been committed, especially by the old couple in the Highwayman, they are not trespassing or wild camping ..
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Sorry Jim but I feel that is abusing the system which is meant for one or two night stops. I have seen a few aires that now have bornes with keypads and slots for credit cards as once free sites are now anything up to 12 a night. I think this is to stop people camping there for long periods.
It is a great system and shouldn't be abused.
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I understand your sentiments, but what constitutes abuse ?
If I were on an a quiet aire and stayed a week, paying daily, would this be abuse ? I don't think so, but, on the other hand if I was depriving other 'bon a fide' travellers then I would agree, that would be unfair.
From what I have read these vans are not depriving anyone, one is certainly causing a nuisance the other isn't, yet they are both tarred with the same brush..
I have witnessed far worse in Spain by UK motorhomers wild camping who think nothing of dumping toilets and leaving rubbish strewn about..
Perhaps I have more sympathy as technically I am camping illegally, albeit with the owners permission, but just the same, I wouldn't want to be reported to the local council....live and let live is my motto..
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I have now had the opportunity to speak face to face with an official from Canterbury City Council. He asked whether or not the vehicles were moved. I said that I thought they must be otherwise how did they get a new ticket each day. (Is it possible does anyone know to just stand in front of the ticket machine to get one produced?)
Anyway this person has said that he is going to detail someone to look at the situation.
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Well I am more to the let live and let live situation. I hope the elderly couple or the single lady are not forced to park elsewhere where they might gett robbed or something.
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I am sorry to those who feel it is being a bit hard on the two 'semi permanent' uses of the motorcaravan section of the Canterbury Old Dover Road Park and Ride. I am a council tax payer to the City Council that has provided this facility to reduce traffic in an already extremely congested city.
For Ģ2 a day I think this is damned good value for the vehicle driver and up to six passengers who can get transported from the Park and Ride straight into the city centre. The motorcaravan facility at the Park and Ride is not there as an alternative to the excellent C&CC site just a couple of miles away.
I feel a little guilty using the facility to occasionally dump my holding tanks there and I pay council tax to Canterbury City Council!
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Do they have any place else to go?
Can they afford to move?
Maybe the answer for the lady in the white van is to now turn up at her council offices and point out them that since she has now been living in the borough for over a year they have a legal obligation to house her.