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Interesting but this is clipped from an "sins of the celebs" article about Daniella Westbrook.....do you think she could really tell if she had been gassed?:
[i:e1ef120a31]Perhaps the most devastating effects of drugs that the public has witnessed in recent years is that of former EastEnders star, Daniella Westbrook. Surrounded by drugs from an early age, she took her first line of cocaine at 14. By the time she was 21 she was spending up to £400 a day on drugs.
She once admitted sitting alone in a room thinking that she'd already seen the Richard and Judy show, only to realise that she'd been sitting there for 24 hours. The drug abuse continued. In June 2000 she was photographed leaving an awards ceremony with the septum/colonna of her nose missing.
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I don't know if this has been answered, but what gas are the gas attack alarms designed to test for? Different gasses require different detection methods so the manufactures must have designed them to test for something, or are they just re-badged smoke detectors?
I personally am 100% convinced that these attacks are an urban myth. Any scumbag that decides to rob tourists as his specialist industry will not have the brains, skills or even planning ability to procure, invent, manufacture or even find out about such a gas. Especially since no one else seems to know about it. It is obviously so rare that it must be very expensive to buy. A thief looking to fill his pockets with a few Euros and the odd camera must be in the same league as a handbag snatcher and will hardly be in the market for rare and exotic narcotic gasses unknown to professionals and powerful enough to knock out but not kill anyone sleeping anywhere in the MH including the overcab bed and maybe under a fresh air vent.
It just does not make sense.
James
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As a Medical Doctor myself, I personally feel these gas attacks are somewhat “Urban Myths” Given the amount of anesthetic that would be required to fill a motorhome, given the amount of ventilation points in a motorhome, would make it highly unlikely on two fronts. The first being quantity, you would require a terrific amount of the stuff, and trying to get the oxygen mix correct would be extremely difficult. Secondly the cost, Anesthetic (any type) is not cheap and not very readily available. Given the small amount of gain they are going to achieve from robbing a motorhome must outweigh the cost of the product.
My personal opinion, and may I say it is merely my personal opinion, is that this gassing myth has all to do with pride. If you awake in the morning after a heavy days drive and you find your motorhome has been robbed. It is much gentler on ones pride to tell the tale of how you were gassed and robbed, rather than say you slept through the whole event. It also makes a better story round the campfire!
Happy Camping
Stewart
I'm a pharmacist and would confirm what Stewart has said. In addition, if crooks are using old fashioned anaethestics like chloroform or ether, they run a very big risk of an explosion. Ether is particularly explosive at the right concentrations. Both crooks and victims are likely to be visible on an air traffic control radar screen.
Enjoy your camping, be safe, but don't get paranoid. (Unless you need some tablets, in which case , drop me a line!)
Dave
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A while back in this thread someone asked why had no test been done to prove one way or the other. My thoughts on this are thus
The experiment would be extremely expensive to conduct, what with all the experts and sensing equipment, who would want to spend this amount? Answer the people who have most gain in proving that it is not an urban myth, the sellers of the alarms. Imagine how many they would sell if they could prove their case
So ask yourself why don’t they do so, I think you can all see where this is going.
If people want to spend money on a useless gadgets go ahead, I’ve got a house full of them, but don’t think it will protect you from thefts in the night, after you’ve had a few to drink and forgotten to lock the door. A "reduced intelligence due to alcohol" alarm, would be more use. Hmmmm where did I leave my soldering iron.
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Forgive me if this question has been asked on this thread already. I have read seven or so pages so far. In most postings about gas attacks (not just this thread) the gas is reported to have been administered through an open roof vent. Can anyone explain to me how someone manages to climb on to the roof of a motorhome without waking the occupants? How many cannisters of gas does the perpetrator have? Has he worked out how many he needs before he clambers up on to the roof? How many cannisters of gas does it take to "do the job" in an average 6 to 7 metre motorhome? Why do a lot of these cases occur on motorway aires? And why are they not reported to the local police? Just one more question, why is no-one reporting that larger motorhomes, i.e. 6/7 berths, containing all the usual things that families with teenagers have, computerized games, expensive camera mobile 'phones and all the other paraphernalia that they have? I am afraid that I am one of those people who have to "stick their finger in the wound", I think we are called Doubting Thomas's.
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Perhaps if anyone here knows Robin Braddow, Technical Support for Club Brownhlls they could ask him to confirm his source
quote from this months MMM supplement "Escape"
Quote:
Most of the incidents have taken place where there are a large number motorhomes mostly traveling to or from a resort.
These bandits are using chemicals like Ether, which they spray into the motorhome through the vents...............
of course he did go on to try and sell a product to deter this from happening to you
1. to put forth such nonsense
2. to con people into buying a detector, this is worse than snake oil (snake oil does have its uses)
3. to print that rubbish with no evidence (ie the reality is that they would never be able to publish) How they have managed to con the foriegn office into publishing a warning I dont know, having rang the FO they admit to having NOT one SHRED of EVIDENCE and yet they still have not removed this laughable warning.
Do a google and you will see that this con is only for the UK market.
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1. to put forth such nonsense
2. to con people into buying a detector, this is worse than snake oil (snake oil does have its uses)
3. to print that rubbish with no evidence (ie the reality is that they would never be able to publish) How they have managed to con the foriegn office into publishing a warning I dont know, having rang the FO they admit to having NOT one SHRED of EVIDENCE and yet they still have not removed this laughable warning.
Do a google and you will see that this con is only for the UK market.
are you implying that we are particularly gullible in the UK???
just 'cos we keep re-electing the reverend blair
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