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panda54 - No problems yet anyway beyond my MHF review of it (other than the one where Astra-North button ceased to work when satellite channels changed; fortunately Astra-South button works just the same). I simply meant mine was the original type with which Adventure Motorhomes obviously had difficulty.
Andy - "arrogant, irritable so and so. I think (hope) that most people who know me would tell you that I'm anything but."
Ummm. I do wonder whether I can have some of what you're on when I see you at shows. I couldn't do your job; don't have your patience.
Eddie - it's a Caktanks CSB2 or BCM12.
Dave
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You point out in capital letters (which is the internet equivalent to shouting) that your original post was about the Tracvision. You went on to say that a "dealer" had said that he had 20 failiures with the Camos dome.
You can hardly be surprised if the importer (RoadPro) and a major installer/supplier (Van Bitz) of the dome defends the product. Equally it must be no surprise that we want to know the name of the dealer. To claim to a member of the public that he had had to return 20 units, when no one else in the trade knows anything about, you can understand our concern.
I am privy to the numbers of returns of all the Camos units that are fitted in the South West and there is no dealer that had anything like the number of returns suggested. Consequenly I can only assume that the dealer is telling you lies.
In answer to the first part of the question, I replied this morning. The Tracvision is not as flexible as the Camos dome, as it will only look at a single satellite, where as, with the Camos you can choose any one of six. Link this to a free to air receiver and you have a pan European system. So other than their shape, the systems are not comparable.
I hope that this helps. I would suggest that you get advice from another dealer (who ever the original one may be!)
Panda54, this is a good illustration of the problem I mentioned earlier isn't it. You quote a dealer / installer as saying that he has had problems with over 20 Camos sat-domes. Lots of people see this and think "Oh, those Camos sat-domes must be terrible, I certainly won't even consider buying one of those." This jeopardises my the success of my business which I have spent 26 years building up and which, so I'm told, has a very good reputation.
I know that what the dealer told you was incorrect or possibly you misunderstood what he said. Either way, I want to defend myself and my business. You then decline to say who this dealer is. Why? Who are you protecting? Your comment about certain rules for certain people is illogical. I didn't give the company's name because it is entirely irrelevant to the matter in hand. If you really want to know, e-mail me at
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and I'll tell you.
You on the other hand, by declining to name the person who has made inaccurate comments about my company's products, prevent me from defending myself. Is that fair?
Anyway, we now know who it was - no thanks to Panda54, thanks to Dave - and I can confirm that the statement passed on by Panda54 is, as I suspected, nonsense to put it politely. It's true that he has had some problems with sat-domes but 20 faulty units? I don't think so. I'll have a word with Nick next week but I'm pleased to see that he still wants to sell Camos sat-domes as you can see on his website:
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Panda54, you could always check with Nick again and confirm exactly what he said. I'm always happy to hear facts on a forum rather than tittle-tattle.
All the best to everyone
RoadProAndy
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I've noticed this comment on Nick's Adventure Motorhomes site:
"Just to clear up a small matter of confusion, a larger satellite dish will outperform the camos sat dome in weak signal area’s, this
means that the larger dish will recieve BBC and ITV stations further away from the signal than the camos"
It is simply not correct to say that a larger dish will always out-perform a larger one, as anyone who knows anything about satellite TV transmission and reception will tell you - and as I will clearly demonstrate to anyone who's interested during my trip to the Iberian peninsular. (I'm getting all excited!!)
I've stopped.
Andy
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The trouble with sweeping statements is that they bite you on the arse! "
"a larger satellite dish will outperform the Camos sat dome in weak signal area"
Was this test carried out in high wind? which we are getting more an dmore of given the climate changes we are experiencing or perhaps in a typical Mediterranean thunder storm, when of course, nearly a metre of steel dish on the roof is exactly what you want, with forked lightening spearing its way to the ground!
Nope, sorry, I still think that the Camos system is a great system, I am happy to install it. Whilst it is not right for everyone in every situation let no one be put of it because of lies and untruths.