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As previously posted in January we had our scuttle "FIXED" although promised new ours was not considered warped enough by the visiting Fiat engineer probably due to the fact that it had been firmly held in place by Duck tape for 5 months prior to Jan. We travelled to Spain at the end of Jan and spent the next 9 weeks subjecting the fix to a mixture of rain and sun,at times 25deg, we now have more leaks than before the fix. The Fiat dealer tell us that there is nothing they can do as the fix was witnessed by the Fiat engineer and approved. Has anybody else experienced failure after the Fix either New scuttle or Old.
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As previously posted in January we had our scuttle "FIXED" although promised new ours was not considered warped enough by the visiting Fiat engineer probably due to the fact that it had been firmly held in place by Duck tape for 5 months prior to Jan. We travelled to Spain at the end of Jan and spent the next 9 weeks subjecting the fix to a mixture of rain and sun,at times 25deg, we now have more leaks than before the fix. The Fiat dealer tell us that there is nothing they can do as the fix was witnessed by the Fiat engineer and approved. Has anybody else experienced failure after the Fix either New scuttle or Old.
Hi steles.
Sorry for the delay in my reply, been very busy and am playing "catch up"
Am also surprised no one else replied
My question is....because the "Fix" has always been described by Fiat as "Temporary" are they truly telling you you are stuck with a warping scuttle
Regards Catherine
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As previously posted in January we had our scuttle "FIXED" although promised new ours was not considered warped enough by the visiting Fiat engineer probably due to the fact that it had been firmly held in place by Duck tape for 5 months prior to Jan. We travelled to Spain at the end of Jan and spent the next 9 weeks subjecting the fix to a mixture of rain and sun,at times 25deg, we now have more leaks than before the fix. The Fiat dealer tell us that there is nothing they can do as the fix was witnessed by the Fiat engineer and approved. Has anybody else experienced failure after the Fix either New scuttle or Old.
Hi steles.
Sorry for the delay in my reply, been very busy and am playing "catch up"
Am also surprised no one else replied
My question is....because the "Fix" has always been described by Fiat as "Temporary" are they truly telling you you are stuck with a warping scuttle
Regards Catherine
Hi Catherine
yes, our dealer told us we were "stuck" with it (sorry for pun). suggested if we were unhappy we would have to speak to Fiat direct. they also denied all knowledge of a new-style scuttle. has anyone a part number for the new scuttle, perhaps from a worksheet?
steles
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Motorhome Manufacturer solution to water ingrss problem
Just got back from our leaving our van for a habitation check with a local Motorhome Dealer (not the one I purchased our present van from)
Had a nice chat about all of the problems with the new Fiat and Peugeot vans. I explained that my van was going into Peugeot for a complete water ingress makeover etc. The guy just sighed and showed me a package which had just come in from one of the Motorhome builders as a fix for their vans which were leaking.
The box contained a number of black self adhesive strips about 60” long and short ones about 3”. The plan being to stick them onto the windscreen and to join the scuttle in the middle. Believe it or not the photograph showed the strips being fitted to a van with the small one in the middle all creased. Looked wonderful!!!! Taken them a year to get round to the gaffer tape fix as used by many owners.
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Solutions to water ingress problem & no more fixes!!
Hi Catherine
yes, our dealer told us we were "stuck" with it (sorry for pun). suggested if we were unhappy we would have to speak to Fiat direct. they also denied all knowledge of a new-style scuttle. has anyone a part number for the new scuttle, perhaps from a worksheet?
steles
Hi steles.
The only report I have seen of a "new" scuttle is GerryD's, where he says it a deeper one.
I have phoned FiART and they told me there are "no new or re-designed scuttles" & the "fix" is still only "temporary"
Make of it what you will, but I would be fuming if I was told what you were told.
I think trading standards would advise that a failed fix is unacceptable.
But speak to them its all very confusing where consumer law is concerned
Hi johnc.
Very interesting,
I wonder if the "Peugeot gaffer tape fix" is because its better than the "FiART sealant fix" or because most owners seem to have used it whilst "waiting" & it therefore is deemed more acceptable
regards Catherine
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I have just had my MH back from Peugeot. The gearbox recall apparently involves replacing some pins in the differential. The ECU remap cures an EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) problem which was affecting performance and upping emision levels - I think the power is slightly different now and there is a slight change in engine note/tone plus my cruise will now hold a steady speed on my local 'hill from hell' whereas before, it dropped out.
With regards to the water ingress. I had covers fitted over various parts and the nice new gucci water catcher but NO engine cover and the scuttle was not resealed so the black mastic tape stays in place Rolling Eyes It should be noted though that water will still pour in through the sides of the bonnet and should be sealed with sponge.
Oh.. and they helpfully replaced a catch on the battery access hatch that was flush before and now sticks up proud so you step on it every time you move out of the cab
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Today we finally went to collect our new Peugeot Boxer motorhome. Two hours on the train to get there... and two hours on the train to get back home!
I won't go into the story of the last five months since we paid our money. This one has had all the covers fitted, and the scuttle does not seem warped in the slightest, but we checked and it leaks through the join. So we refused to accept it.
It seems to me that some mastic in the join would deal with the problem. Is that too simplistic? But whatever is done to it, I feel it should be done by Peugeot, before I take delivery. That way it remains their problem.
Is there anything a Peugeot garage can do, on Peugeot advice, to stop water coming through the join? Even a longish-term "temporary" fix would be better than nothing,
My other worry is: If this has been leaking since manufacture, and I know that the covers have only just been fitted, how do I know how much corrosion there is on the components under the covers?
Any information/suggestions on either point welcome.
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