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GeorgeTelford · Account Deactivated

Hi Jack

No-one is trying to force you or anyone else to do anything, just passing information so that people can make an informed choice.

The LGV you mention, the last 2 letters GV = Goods Vehicle

Motorhomes are not Goods Vehicles as defined By law.

Insurance companies have not yet ever refused to pay out on the above scenario, so unless none of the thousands of very large american motorhomes have ever been involved in a shunt over the last 30 + years then I would say that is a good indicator that they are not going to start now. bearing in mind that a great proportion do not have any increased licence.

George

BarryandSue

I wonder whether the Insurance Ombudsman would agree to the Insurance Companies 'making it up as they go along'? But if it's in the 'small print' then it's there for anyone to see. Just look.

Barry

Endura2

George,

I more than realise your not trying to force anything and my point about 'risk' is purely my cynical view towards things like insurance companies; banks; mortgage companies; financial advisors; stockbrokers; politicians; Disney; George Bush; Marilyn Monroe's death; aliens from outer space etc etc. Very Happy

I would not like to give someone the opportunity to make some ground breaking decision.
I would add here that one importer of American Rv's will not import the big stuff unless one produces the appropriate licence. Have you seen the Cowboy Cadillac site? Drive one of those on an ordinary licence!!!

I hope the gales and nonsense are not affecting you and the rest of our glorious membership.

Jak

teemyob

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pipa

The rules are confusing,my Laika has been upgraded to 3850 from 3500 and now is classed as a Private heavy goods vehicle,so what speed limits apply now. When I was at the Shepton show this year I queried the licence required to drive the large coach style M/H on show and was told one must have a HGV licence, I do have a full PCV licence to drive buses & coaches & was told this wouldn't allow me to drive that, that from the senior salesman !!!!!!!! Brian

joe2369

God my head is hurting now. Who has being "DONE" by the fuzz for being overweight is there anybody who can say yes I have being pulled weighed and fined .I have being driving campervans/ motorhomes for nearly 20 years and not being stopeed once in uk and one time coming over the pyranees checked for drugs etc 1991

zaskar

Well done indead George. I'm extremely impressed with the amount of effort & research you've obviously been putting in on this subject and I'm gratefull considering that it's possible my next rig will have to be over the limit cos wifey needs another slideout for all her shoes! Smile

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Over the past few years, I've been through a similar process with insurance companies regarding policies for Full Timers and I know how frustrating and infuriating it can be to talk to officious people who dont really have a full grasp of thier subject but still insist that they are right!
Whilst I don't want to 'rock the boat', I will not give up on this subject as I do not see why FullTimers and Motorhomers in general should be stiffled by petty beurocracy when all we want to do is drive our rigs (what-ever size) carefully and enjoy the countryside.
Hopefully, given time and effort, we'll both get a satisfactory result.

sailor

Having bought a van with MGW of 3800 I read this series of posts with interest.

However:

According to the info supplied with my new photocard licence, cat C1 is a "medium sized vehicle", weight between 3500 and 7500.

The latest DVLA publications specifically state that for motorhomes it is the weight that counts, .

I hear what George says about the law, and maybe DVLA is wrong - but I doubt it! Driving a vehicle over 3500 without a C1 licence has to be asking for trouble. The police will believe the DVLA, more importantly if you have an accident you then DO have to show your licence, and if it does not cover the groups as reqired then you will be uninsured.

I for one would not wish to risk taking on the DVLA, insurance companies and for that matter the EU legislative bodies. I am not a legal expert but it maybe that EU legislation, along with parliamentary approval to accept EU law in the UK, is the provides the legal cover rather than the laws that George mentions - but I am guessing, I am just not willing to disregard DVLA instructions.

I think this is all in line with current EU thinking, but I understand that there is an EU proposal to allow motorvans up to 4250 to be driven on a B licence subject to some conditions, which would become law in UK if passed (albeit not retrospectively)

eddievanbitz

Hi George, excellent explanation to a emotive subject (never thought that I would say that!) Your investigations have gone done exactly the same lines as ours (my wife Lyn drives the van as much as I do) and I know the people involved in the Travelworld debacle and remember it very well.

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