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GeorgeTelford · Account Deactivated

Hi Frank

Briefly

VOSA is the merger of the Vehicle Inspectorate (VI) and the Traffic Area Network (TAN) division of the Department for Transport (DfT). We have approximately 2,500 staff, 1,700 of which are based at our operational locations across Great Britain. The aim of the agency is to contribute to the improvement of the road safety and environmental standards, and to the reduction of vehicle crime.

RR

I have C1 + E (test pasted 1971) so does that mean I can drive a 7.5 ton RV with a car on a braked frame of say 1500 KGs?

I am diabetic tablet controlled so extremely interested ion this thread.

sussextrotter · Last edited by sussextrotter on Sun May 27, 2007 6:18 pm; edited 1 time in total

Let me put every ones mide at rest with regards to vehicle weights,,

after driving H G Vs for over 35 years i e , car trasporters & tankers,,

let me give an a case that is still true to day,, When do you need a

H G V LICENSE,, answer, when it's constructed to transport goods,,

let me go further, When driver is delivering the unit new from the factoryi e (the front part

of an articulated vehicle, the fifth wheel coupling is carried in the cab

and in that case it could not pull a trailor, and can not carry goods,,

AND IN THAT CASE WILL NOT HAVE TO HAVE H G V LICENSE,,,

PART TWO,

Lets take the case of the bus i e P S V Driver,

Take all the seets out of the bus,And just leave 8 in place and it's not

PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLE ANY MORE,,,

PART THREE,

TRUST ME THE ANSWER is CORRECT, YOUR MOTOT HOME IS

REGISTERED AS PRIVATE, YOU DONT CARRY GOODS, & YOU DONT

CARRY PASSENGERS,, SO THE ABOVE CAN DRIVEN ON ORDINARY

DRIVING LICENSE

REMEMBER H G V / L G V & P S V / P C V VEHICLES
COME UNDER CONSTUCTION & USE

THE WEIGHT AND SIZE OF THE VEHICLE IS ON COSIQUENCE

SO GO ON ALL YOU GUYS PUT YOUR MOTOR HOME ON THE ROAD

AND LOOK OUT FOR THE SUSSEXTROTTER

gromett

Dragged an old one from the stack Laughing

To be on the safe side and not risk getting into trouble for trusting arm chair solicitors/policemen/judges I have taken the view that:

If the Motorhome is under 3500Kg then the Normal car licence (B) is ok.

If it is over 3500Kg but under 7500Kg then a C1 is required. Pre 97 licenses already have it. Post 97 need to take the test.

If it is over 7500Kg then the Full C is required.

If you are towing anything (except a caravan) then there is a 750Kg limit and the relevent +E entitlement test should be taken.

Caravans seem to be excluded from the 750Kg limit for some reason Sad

These are just my views and are just to be on the safe side as the various agency's don't seem to know what is what but it may only be a matter of time.... I know a lot of people will disagree but I feel safer doing my best to comply with the law or as near as is possible. Until they bring out a motorhome classification with limits this is as close as I can get.

BTW: In 1992 HGV stopped being used and it is now LGV. I was told this was for EU harmonisation as some euro countries don't have a word for heavy (LOL) so Large was used.

Karl

dreamcatcher

I've been driving now for 40+ years, having had HGV3, and full PSV over the years, and I was always under the impression that you could drive a bus on an ordinary licence, providing you were not carrying passengers for gain or reward.
When I first applied to drive buses, I was taken out on a 5 mile "trial run", to see if I had the aptitude, and surely the Traffic Superintendent and inspector would not have allowed me to take the wheel of a Double Decker with a crash gearbox if they were liable to prosecution and losing their jobs for sanctioning such a journey.
I found this on the DVLA website...........
Holders of a full category B (car) driving licence may drive any of the vehicles listed below:

* a passenger carrying vehicle manufactured more than 30 years before the date when it is driven and not used for hire or reward or for the carriage of more than 8 passengers.

Mind you, modern buses are much easier to drive than these 30 year old relics with crash boxes.
Bob

gromett

"manufactured more than 30 years before the date when it is driven"

Doesn't that mean the vehicle MUST be 30 years old?

Karl

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