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As we've had a few comments on the new model year Tribby, has anyone seen the Twin at the NEC and noted any changes?
About the only thing I can see from the website is that the basic price has increased and they're introducing a pale gold metallic body colour. Can't see any mention of a flip up worktop extension or a halfway door catch, both items that the 'old' Twin had before the X250 makeover and both could be very handy on the current model and would only cost them a small bean.
Why Adria can't just offer the Twin in all the dozen or so colours that Fiat Professional offer for the Ducato I can't understand.
Now a nice Metallic Slate Grey would be good, or am I getting to stuck in my ways???
Andy
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I'm seriously considering buying a Twin and took a good look at one the other day. I was well versed in the basic spec and optional extras, including paint job. This I found quite interesting: The dealer, Global Motor Homes, told me they had six in stock, all the same blue colour. They're 2008 models and this is evident when I looked under the bonnet and saw the newly designed engine cover, being Fiat's remedy for the water ingress problem.
I asked the dealer what the 2008 differences for the Twin are and was informed that: a) there's been a price increase of 3% or so; b) the radio/CD is no longer fitted; and c) removeable carpets have been added to the spec. That's all he was aware of.
On the subject of colour, the (non-metallic) blue in question looks identical to that on the Duccato which white van man chooses to look a bit different. I thought it naff in the pictures, but better in the flesh. However, looking at the mass of Twins advertised over in Germany, they are mainly silver metallic or white, with the occasional red metallic. Nowhere did I see this 'Windsor blue' as Global call this 'special edition'. Hmmm.
It doesn't help that the front end below the bonnet is not colour coded, thus adding to the commercial van look. I again checked all the Twins in the German ads and found only one with the large black bumper area. I couldn't help wondering why Adria had chosen such a utalitarian vehicle for conversion - and Global have six of them.
But, I'm still interested because of the price. Bearing in mind the 2008 price increase and taking account of the fact the one I looked at was the 5-speed 2.2 (though they do have the 6-speed 2.3 also), and the fact it has the solitary optional extra of cab aircon, the van should be £32,047. Global have it up for £28,995. The one I viewed at the dealership, is actually up on eBay right now (look for Adria Twin and you can't miss it).
So, in short: 2008 Adria Twin, in special White Van Man Blue, with cab aircon and three grand off retail.
Any comments anyone?
Cheers.
Shaun
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I'm seriously considering buying a Twin and took a good look at one the other day. I was well versed in the basic spec and optional extras, including paint job. This I found quite interesting: The dealer, Global Motor Homes, told me they had six in stock, all the same blue colour. They're 2008 models and this is evident when I looked under the bonnet and saw the newly designed engine cover, being Fiat's remedy for the water ingress problem.
I asked the dealer what the 2008 differences for the Twin are and was informed that: a) there's been a price increase of 3% or so; b) the radio/CD is no longer fitted; and c) removeable carpets have been added to the spec. That's all he was aware of.
On the subject of colour, the (non-metallic) blue in question looks identical to that on the Duccato which white van man chooses to look a bit different. I thought it naff in the pictures, but better in the flesh. However, looking at the mass of Twins advertised over in Germany, they are mainly silver metallic or white, with the occasional red metallic. Nowhere did I see this 'Windsor blue' as Global call this 'special edition'. Hmmm.
It doesn't help that the front end below the bonnet is not colour coded, thus adding to the commercial van look. I again checked all the Twins in the German ads and found only one with the large black bumper area. I couldn't help wondering why Adria had chosen such a utalitarian vehicle for conversion - and Global have six of them.
But, I'm still interested because of the price. Bearing in mind the 2008 price increase and taking account of the fact the one I looked at was the 5-speed 2.2 (though they do have the 6-speed 2.3 also), and the fact it has the solitary optional extra of cab aircon, the van should be £32,047. Global have it up for £28,995. The one I viewed at the dealership, is actually up on eBay right now (look for Adria Twin and you can't miss it).
So, in short: 2008 Adria Twin, in special White Van Man Blue, with cab aircon and three grand off retail.
Any comments anyone?
Cheers.
Shaun
Well Shaun you and the Global employees may just be the first people in the UK to see a blue Twin.
I spoke to Adria UK a few months back and they said they'd not had a blue van from the factory at that point and they were having problems getting a photo of a blue Twin out of them.
I think it's a bit rough that they've not chosen a metallic blue, after all the burgundy ones is metallic.
Ialso find Adria's choice of colours strange considering the wide range that Fiat offer for the Ducato. There's a nice grey metallic which is offered by Fiat and certainly suits my Tranny and would probably look good on the Twin as well.
Global are offering a nice discount there and with air, it just depends if you can bear the blue every day for the next few years
Andy
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Andy, I can't help feeling a little suspicious. Whilst I've been looking for Twins this past couple of months, I've seen the odd one here and there at various dealerships. Then, suddenly, just one dealer has half a dozen with the 2008 spec, in a dubious colour at a bargain price. Given what you've said there about blue ones being a rarity, where have this lot sprung from? What made Adria convert a whole batch in a somewhat downmarket colour with non-colour coded bumpers? I saw an identical model pass me yesterday. Same blue, same big black bumpers, but with a copy of the Sun across the dash and being driven by a builder. It was a 2007 van.
I should do a survey. Who thinks 'Windsor blue' with big black bumpers will drop in value disproportionately compared to the UK's default ambulance white? Is this batch of blue vans being sold on the cheap because of the colour, because Adria bought them in a moment of madness and following their conversion, they've bypassed all the European dealers (who would have laughed at them), got them into the UK under the cover of darkness, and have done a special deal with Global to get shot of them quickly?
Or, do you think they're not as bad as I'm making out?
I'm trying desperately to see a plus to 'Windsor blue' and I think I have one. They look so like Joe the builder's van that they won't draw the same attention from thieves that the posh metallics would.
Shaun
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Andy, I can't help feeling a little suspicious. Whilst I've been looking for Twins this past couple of months, I've seen the odd one here and there at various dealerships. Then, suddenly, just one dealer has half a dozen with the 2008 spec, in a dubious colour at a bargain price. Given what you've said there about blue ones being a rarity, where have this lot sprung from? What made Adria convert a whole batch in a somewhat downmarket colour with non-colour coded bumpers? I saw an identical model pass me yesterday. Same blue, same big black bumpers, but with a copy of the Sun across the dash and being driven by a builder. It was a 2007 van.
I should do a survey. Who thinks 'Windsor blue' with big black bumpers will drop in value disproportionately compared to the UK's default ambulance white? Is this batch of blue vans being sold on the cheap because of the colour, because Adria bought them in a moment of madness and following their conversion, they've bypassed all the European dealers (who would have laughed at them), got them into the UK under the cover of darkness, and have done a special deal with Global to get shot of them quickly?
Or, do you think they're not as bad as I'm making out?
I'm trying desperately to see a plus to 'Windsor blue' and I think I have one. They look so like Joe the builder's van that they won't draw the same attention from thieves that the posh metallics would.
Shaun
Shaun,
You could be right about the lack of interest from the light fingered brigade, I suggest the addition of a 'Tools not left in van overnight' sign on the back window will help as well!!!
I suspect that as they've gotta be UK specc'd (they are aren't they?) with RH drive, they can't just be a gash lot left over on a Slovenian parking lot. Somebody, whether Adria UK or Global must've ordered them into the country.
Maybe they just made a big batch of UK Twins in all colours and shipped them over and Global got there last and blue was all that was left.
I don't envy you the decision.
Andy
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I don't envy me the decision either! Yeah, they're full UK spec and all seats are duly covered in plastic with the new carpet rolled up and stuck in a cupboard. And, there's no 'driven personally to you, sir, all the way from Slovenia', as there's only a couple of miles on the clock.
Global also mentioned a decent finance deal with Black Horse Finance - 3.45% flat over 5 years, with minimal deposit. Global are a bona fide Adria dealer with cracking new premises and a laid back but friendly and honest approach.
Yet, I just can't shake off the whiff of desperation with these Twins. Even on eBay at £28,995, Global are open to offers. So far, no takers.
I still have questions for current Twin owners, just to make sure I can live with one. A new thread, methinks.
Shaun
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I don't envy me the decision either! Yeah, they're full UK spec and all seats are duly covered in plastic with the new carpet rolled up and stuck in a cupboard. And, there's no 'driven personally to you, sir, all the way from Slovenia', as there's only a couple of miles on the clock.
Global also mentioned a decent finance deal with Black Horse Finance - 3.45% flat over 5 years, with minimal deposit. Global are a bona fide Adria dealer with cracking new premises and a laid back but friendly and honest approach.
Yet, I just can't shake off the whiff of desperation with these Twins. Even on eBay at £28,995, Global are open to offers. So far, no takers.
I still have questions for current Twin owners, just to make sure I can live with one. A new thread, methinks.
Shaun
Ah well as an ex Black Horse Vehicle Management customer service call centre wallah and ex Lloyds TSB HR wallah and ex NatWest Streamline Manager and ex Joint Credit Card Co. Area Manager I'd best say nothing about Black Horse Finance.
Except if that rate is correct then somebody may be subsidising the finance and that will be costing them and if you're paying cash that could come off the asking price.
Might save enough for a respray
Andy
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Ha, ha - nice one about the respray. That finance deal is only to 15th November, as market rates are on the up. I wish I had the cash, as I'm sure I could get the van a bit cheaper. I cheekily suggested paying by credit card. This would be warmly welcomed - but with an additional 2.8% charge.
Shaun
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