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stupid blooming satellite!!
28085 PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 4:39 pm Reply with quote
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So I get my satellite and tripod up (in the dark, stupid me, too keen, etc) and start fiddling. Anyway I get back to the satellite and start fiddling with that as well, but the digibox won't even register it in the "signal quality" band.

Nowt, nada. Tried it three times.

Anyway back home now, and had a look at the satelliteforcaravans website and it tells me that if you have a Pace digibox (which I do) then there's a good chance that the digibox won't pick up the satellite AT ALL unless you have a signal meter and point the satellite dish directly at the satellite.

Anyone else come across this problem?

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Hi Stormy,
As a rule of thumb all broadcast sats in the Northern Hemisphere (generally speaking as far as this is concerned) are positioned over the equator in what is called the Clarke belt (after Arthur C) that is 22,000 miles away and when positioning the dish 1 You have to get the elevation right 2 Get the position right.
For 1 (Im trying to remember) should be from where middle Uk is about 27Degrees,
For 2 The Astra Group of Satilittes are at 19 degrees east of south. Find true south on a compass and move it eastwards 19 degrees.
You are then approx. near enough the elevation etc. Dont forget that each channel on the transponder is opposite polorised, ie 1=hoz 2=vert and so on. The rest should be fine tuning.
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28087 PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 5:26 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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Malc Malc Malc - you're not hearing me buddy!

Apparently you're supposed to get some form of feedback on the signal quality band, even if the satellite dish is sticking out of your arse and pointing at a pumpkin!!

It sounds like it's some form of hardware issue with Pace and, IIRC, Grundig digiboxes.

Wondered if anyone else had hit upon this? I know how to tune it in, I just wasn't prepared for the stonewalling!
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PS What you have got to remember Stormy, you are in effect trying to point a narrow beam torch at an object many miles away, if you are a couple of degrees off here, think how many miles you will be out when its travelled that distance. No matter what digibox you have the satillite must be within you beam. Malc

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you're quite right, I understand that - believe me, I do!

But what I'm saying is that most digiboxes can "sense" a signal even if you're pointing at the sun! It's a fault inherent to these types of digiboxes, I believe, that means that unless you're absolutely precise, it won't even recognise your efforts!

Appreciate your help Malc, but I'm looking for someone who has had this prob.
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Road Pro do a 'Sat Finder', comes as standard when you buy a Sat TV system from them in the kit with tripod, compass elevation scale etc.

Not the same as the picture, but it gives the impression of what I mean, simply plugs in at dish end, find sat,..go watch telly! Cool (links to road-pro on these pages excellent 'techy' dept for queries, very helpful staff)

Regards Dave

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Could it be a connection problem???? nobody seems to have mentioned it...even made up leads from a professional supplier can be faulty.
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Stormy,

my favourite topic - compass is a must sky/astra is at 28.8 sse. The digibox will not read signal strength or quality unless you are very close to the alignment of the beam. A clue is looking at houses to get an idea of the angle of the transmission - here in the UK the astra satellite is low in the southern sky. as you travel further south it gets higher.

When you tune in bring your satellite dish around from the east to south SLOWLY. The first signal you will receive is astra - it is only just separated from the hotbird signal which comes next.

I know some suggest that you dont need a satellite finder in line but it makes it much easier. Weather conditions like rain electrical storms etc will affect the quality of the signal

If you have all the compass and sat finder all you need is patience. In can be very frustrating until you get the hang of it

Then you can discover the joys of getting sky in spain and how to get the southern beam !!!!

Good luck

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Stormy,

I can only think you are one of the few who have had this trouble with some Pace and Grundig digiboxes.

However, as I have never understood David Sullivan's reluctance to recommend satellite meters, I would say try aligning a dish with a friend's non-Pace/Grundig digibox, and if you can do that OK buy a satellite meter to use with yours. In any case, choose wisely and they save an awful lot of frustration, particularly if you are in a difficult spot and have to aim through trees, etc.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/de.sullivan/meterneeded.htm

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[quote:8f693d9d4c]Then you can discover the joys of getting sky in spain and how to get the southern beam !!!!
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That's not easy!! Very Happy

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