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I know that when my set-up is properly adjusted I can feel the car assisting the M/H braking effect considerably.
Noel
Hi Noel a very well written piece, and above is the only thing I don't agree with. If you have an overun braking system correctly set up how can the car help to brake the M/H?
Olley
Hi Olley,
Perhaps not a strictly accurate choice of words. What I can feel is that the car is not trying to push the M/H when braking so I know that the car is contributing to the whole braking effect of the combination, if that is not the idea, why put brakes on any trailer/caravan?
Noel.
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Hi it is my understanding from reading this thread various people have stated that your train weight is simply the product of the towing vehicles MAM and the Trailer MAM, and if this figure exceeds the towing vehicles maximum train weight you are illegal.
However Mel on outandabout claims that this incorrect and it is the actual weight not their MAM's that the police would have to go by, when determining if you had exceeded your train weight, necessitating a visit to the weighbridge.
This he says has been confirmed by the DVLA and that they have it wrong on their website. Anybody got any views on this?
Olley
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Mel on outandabout claims....it is the actual weight not their MAM's that the police would have to go by.
Not so. That's the common misconception which Noel has addressed
olley wrote:
This he says has been confirmed by the DVLA and that they have it wrong on their website. Anybody got any views on this?
Yes. More anecdotal stuff. In any case, DVLA are neither legislators nor involved in law enforcement, which is another common misconception (that DVLA are the nation's oracle). Legislation is legislation. DVLA are a licensing agency for drivers and vehicles.
Dougie.
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i went into the hgv area on one of the m5 service stations, and had to reverse diagonally with the car on the back (a-frame, of course). had to do a few shunts to bring the front wheels back from full lock, but no problem at all. have awarded myself 5 gold stars.
des
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Hi Dougie Mel is quoting the legislation, this is not anecdotal stuff, and excuse the pun but he does know his stuff.
Is it possible (heaven forbid) you could be wrong?
Olley
PS. this from VOSA
The train weight, for a vehicle fitted with a towing attachment, is the maximum weight of the vehicle and trailer when loaded
And this from trading standards:
Train weight is a term used in relation to vehicles drawing trailers and is the sum of the weights transmitted to the road surface by all of the wheels of the vehicle and trailer
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If you had an empty transit van on a trailer the actual weight is the one to be taken into acount for the train weight not the fact that the van could then take a further 1.5 tonne of payload.
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Hi Dougie Mel is quoting the legislation, this is not anecdotal stuff, and excuse the pun but he does know his stuff.
Is it possible (heaven forbid) you could be wrong?
Olley
PS. this from VOSA
The train weight, for a vehicle fitted with a towing attachment, is the maximum weight of the vehicle and trailer when loaded
And this from trading standards:
Train weight is a term used in relation to vehicles drawing trailers and is the sum of the weights transmitted to the road surface by all of the wheels of the vehicle and trailer
Doesn't that statement from VOSA prove Dougie right Olley?
If not the I am lost in the words
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Hi Frank they way I read it " the maximum weight of the vehicle and trailer when loaded" its the "when loaded" bit that I understand to mean that its not the MAM's added together, but the actual weight of the combination at the time they weigh you, that determines whether you are over your train weight.
Olley
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If you had an empty transit van on a trailer the actual weight is the one to be taken into acount for the train weight not the fact that the van could then take a further 1.5 tonne of payload.
Maybe, but the van could only take the extra 1.5 tonne of payload if it was within the trailer's MAM.
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