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364637 PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:27 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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Hi Guys
I currently drive a Motability lease vehicle which is due to be returned in May, I would like to replace it with a suitable camper van probably a VW or Mazda sort of sized 2+ berth model either new or good quality second-hand, must be diesel and must have a pop top and eisberg type diesel driven heating other than that we are not to fussy about it other than it has to be small enough to drive as our car also, as the intention is to do away with the Motability car and have a camper that we use as our car and camper and a whole host of other things also,[hopefully].
Therefore we have a few questions for you as follows.
1/ Has anyone found a dealer willing to supply such vehicles on Motability or has anyone got such a vehicle using the Motability component of their DLA to pay for it, if so from where or how ???
2/ Does anyone know of any companies or individuals who can supply modular removable camping units for the more popular ranges of MPV e.g. Scenic, Picasso, Zafria etc etc as a fall back if no suitable converted camper can be sought as I am returning an 05 plate Grand Scenic which is a Motability lease vehicle and there are many such sized vehicles obtainable on the scheme.
We love getting away but due to not having worked for quite sometime due to my disablements I am not able to obtain mainstream credit to purchase a suitable vehicle therefore am exploring other routes into ownership, as with growing tax, fuel and insurance costs it would make sense to only have one vehicle.
Any and all information would be greatly received if you have made units for your MPV do you have plans, specs etc that you would like to share or have you got a vehicle using your Dla Motability component if so from where we are willing to travel the length and breath of the Uk for a suitable vehicle.
Many thanks look forward to any and all replies will be answered
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Hi

I can't help but this post will push it back up to the top Wink


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Hi,

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it looks like it applies to new and used cars only.

If you get this allowance paid to you, why don't you buy a pre-owned MH on a finance agreement and just put the allowance towards the repayments, they are a lot cheaper than a new one which can be from £20k - £30.

Most dealers can do a VAT free supply on new MH's to a registered disabled person. We have supplied a number of new MH's under this scheme.

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Dear Dougie and Von,

In response to your questions;

1/ Has anyone found a dealer willing to supply such vehicles on Motability or has anyone got such a vehicle using the Motability component of their DLA to pay for it, if so from where or how ???

A Once you have given up having a car instead of the mobility component of DLA the money will be paid into an account. You can then spend the money on whatever you like! I have a friend no longer able to drive who still receives the mobility component of DLA and used it to hire taxis.

2/ Does anyone know of any companies or individuals who can supply modular removable camping units for the more popular ranges of MPV e.g. Scenic, Picasso, Zafria etc etc as a fall back if no suitable converted camper can be sought as I am returning an 05 plate Grand Scenic which is a Motability lease vehicle and there are many such sized vehicles obtainable on the scheme.

A Once you have got the payments instead of a vehicle you can use the money to buy what you like! Motability does offer HP. Taken from the web site :
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Hire purchase
Hire purchase enables you to buy the car you want and this can be a new or used car. You are responsible for negotiating the purchase price of the car with the dealer and arranging insurance cover. At the end of the hire purchase agreement - which can be between two to five years - you will own the car.


Don't forget if you use the money to purchase a new vehicle that has been adapted in any way and that includes a motorcaravan, the VAT would be exempted. The VAT exemption on a vehicle exempted at time of purchase extends then to subsequent servicing, repairs change of tyres etc.

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It is my understanding that VAT will only be non payable if the motorhome is used by a genuine wheelchair user.
Other types of disability do not qualify, so unless the adaptation is to allow a wheelchair it will not qualify

We were told this-my wife gets DLA but because she does not use a wheelchair, simply a stick, we have to pay VAT
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oldenstar wrote:
It is my understanding that VAT will only be non payable if the motorhome is used by a genuine wheelchair user.
Other types of disability do not qualify, so unless the adaptation is to allow a wheelchair it will not qualify

We were told this-my wife gets DLA but because she does not use a wheelchair, simply a stick, we have to pay VAT


Possibly if she purchased it solely in her name, you would not have paid VAT.

We do not seem to have a problem providing a purchaser is receiving DLA.

Interesting point about VAT not payable on tyres, servicing etc, will have to investigate that, anything to keep the publics money out of Browns greedy clutches I go for.


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We bought ours new and no VAT. OH has MS and gets his Mobility Allowance and road tax paid which we use for the van. He is not stuck in a chair though and only uses one when he's very ill, or to get through airports etc due to the very long walk and queueing. With having MS, there is an exception to the rules and this is due to the the nature of the horrible disease.

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Interesting point about VAT not payable on tyres, servicing etc, will have to investigate that, anything to keep the publics money out of Browns greedy clutches I go for.

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Repair or maintenance of an adapted motor vehicle can be zero rated when:-
The work relates to a vehicle (or an adaptation to a vehicle) that was eligible for zero-rating when it was bought/supplied, but the garage/dealer should obtain an eligibility declaration.
If the garage/dealer did not supply the vehicle they will need to check the original invoice for the purchase of the vehicle to confirm that it was supplied at the zero rate and they should retain a copy for their records.

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I agree that VAT exemption on purchasing a new vehicle or adaptations on a second hand one state that the person must be a wheelchair user however the disabled person does not have to be completely wheelchairbound (see below)

There are some anonomies in VAT exemption such as a Motability car being VAT exempted that can be supplied to a non wheelchair user ie a person who has upper limb loss or deformity.

More and more people are using electric scooters that at present do not qualify for VAT exemption. This I feel needs to be addressed as the use of a scooter gives the disabled person more independence. Electric scooters are now much cheaper than electric wheelchairs. They are smaller and can be broken down to allow their carriage in vehicles. I know of many severely disabled people who use electric scooters to give them their independence. I have several disabled friends who live alone who have no-one to push a wheelchair but have complete independence by using an electric scooter.

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that explains in more detail about VAT exempted vehicles.

2 What is a wheelchair user?
For the purposes of this relief a wheelchair user is anyone who has to use a wheelchair (electrically powered or otherwise) in order to be mobile.

A disabled person with a degenerative condition, such as multiple sclerosis, who does not need to use a wheelchair all the time, but only when the condition requires it, also qualifies as a wheelchair user.

A person who only occasionally uses a wheelchair such as:

when visiting a shopping centre or gardens; or
temporarily because he has a broken leg
is not considered to normally use a wheelchair and is not eligible for the relief.

2.3 What is a wheelchair?
A wheelchair is a chair for invalids on wheels which is manually or mechanically propelled.

A mobility scooter is not a wheelchair for VAT purposes.

2.6 Can a family member purchase the adapted vehicle?
Yes, provided that it is purchased for the personal use of the disabled wheelchair user.

2.7 Domestic or personal use
To qualify for zero-rating the adapted vehicle must be for the domestic or personal use of the disabled wheelchair user. This may also include vehicles that are used by the disabled wheelchair user in his work capacity provided this is incidental to the vehicle’s main use as a private vehicle.

You cannot zero rate vehicles supplied to businesses regardless of who uses them or how they have been adapted – for example, you cannot zero rate an adapted vehicle that will be used as a taxi.

2.8 Can an unadapted motor vehicle be zero-rated?
No. You can only zero rate the supply of an adapted motor vehicle to a disabled wheelchair user.

3.1 What is an eligible adapted motor vehicle?
It is any motor vehicle (such as a car, light van, multi-passenger vehicle (MPV) or motor home) that is:

designed, or substantially and permanently adapted for the carriage of a disabled wheelchair user – see paragraphs 3.2 to 3.6; and
has a carrying capacity of no more than 12 people – see paragraph 3.7.
3.2 What does ‘adapted for the carriage of a disabled wheelchair/stretcher user’ mean?
A motor vehicle is adapted for the carriage of a disabled wheelchair user if it is:

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