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I am informed that as of the 15th February 08 all the Speed Cameras in the Variable Speed Limit section of the M25 near Heathrow Airport (JCT 10-15) are going Digital and the activation limit is being lowered.
They are currently the older film type cameras and Set at 90mph when the Variable Limit Signs are not in operation.
The new digital cameras are going to be set at the normal 10% 0f the speed limit + 2mph (80mph + and your taking a risk basically) when the signs are not in use i.e. national speed limit.
I can't confirm the activation limit when the signs are set (variable limits showing) but believe it would be the same 10% + 2mph of the speed shown by the sign at that time.
Please pass this on to anyone you know. I hope this saves a few of you getting points on your licence!!!
Worth bearing in mind.
Cheers.
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Thank doG I haven't had to drive on it for 15 years although we lived only half a mile from the Kings Langley junction up to '93.
I remember the days before the M25 existed when I lived in Ruislip and was a medical rep in NE London, Essex and East Anglia - oh the North Circular was a wonderful place - all day!
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It would be safer, cheaper and quicker if nobody exceeded the speed limit in the first place.
Just remember, your speedo can over-read by up to 10% so an indicated 70 could be as low as 63. But construction and use regulations do not allow your speedo to under-read. Therefore if your speedo shows 70, you cannot be doing 71. The speedo can never be an excuse for speeding.
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If by digital you mean the 'specs' cameras - the ones that look like a pair of small cameras side by side and pointing towards you - then it should prove to be less of a problem than the old cameras.
The specs system measures average speed between the cameras. The individual camera cannot measure your speed as you pass it, therefore to go flying past one camera will not bring you a ticket.
Anybody that can or does maintain an average of over 80mph on the M25 either deserves a medal or a ticket or probably both.
JohnW
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Wizzo you are right, the Spec cameras do record average speeds but these are GATSO cameras that have simply had their actual camera workings changed from film to digital.
Basically it means that they can record many, many more pictures before they need to change the storage disk (in place of film) AND these pictures can be transmitted down a phone line to the administration building and be dealt with quicker. They are far less manpower intensive (no-one has to go and change the film and then have it processed) and they are cheaper to run - so more profit.
Please don't get me wrong, I am not advocating that people should speed, and I don't want to start a 'they're just a money making machine' debate, I just think that speed cameras are NOT the accident prevention cure that they are made out to be. Personally I think mobile phone use whilst driving is much more of a safety issue.
At the moment speed cameras are dealt with by the Police and the Department of Transport - there are suggestions that local speed cameras be under the control of the local Council.......... remember what happened when parking control was given over....???? Just a thought.
Cheers (but don't drink and drive either!)
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