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382799 PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:04 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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Here is a link to the relevant HMRC Public Notice on the subject - remember, though that this is only HMRC's interpretation of the law.

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Patrick,

Yes, identical to that link in my first post on this thread (but in pdf).

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3.4 What is a ‘substantial’ adaptation?
A substantial adaptation enables a wheelchair user to use a vehicle which he could not use before it was adapted. For example, a spinner device, such as a knob on a steering wheel, may not seem substantial to an able bodied person but it would be substantial for a disabled wheelchair user who could not otherwise drive the vehicle.

top ^3.5 Examples of adaptations
The following are examples of adaptations for the carriage of a disabled wheelchair user:

a swivel seat;
a hoist to lift a wheelchair into or onto the vehicle;
a box for the wheelchair, which is fitted to the top or the back of the vehicle;
adaptations that enable a wheelchair user to drive the vehicle, such as a push/pull brake and accelerator, hand controls or other aids that operate the primary driving controls; and
infra-red control unit that operates the secondary controls.
This is not an exhaustive list.

The following are not adaptations for the carriage of a disabled wheelchair user:

the fitting of a roof rack or standard roof box;
the attachment of a trailer to the back of a vehicle; or
the fitting of automatic transmission;
because they are for general use and not specifically designed for disabled people.

This is not an exhaustive list.

As you say it's down to interpretaion of the rule.
A knob on the wheel is considered a substaional modification as is a swivel seat and a box to carry the wheelchair in. Not substantial in my opinion but may satisfy some people.

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I recently enquired about an upgrade/replacement motorhome at a large local dealer. The first question I was asked by the salesman was

"do you have any disabled relatives?"

When I replied "no", he said thats a shame,

"I could have saved you thousands"
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Peter, JCM.
How did you get on with the inspection did the vat want the money from you or the customer in the end ??
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mickyc wrote:
I recently enquired about an upgrade/replacement motorhome at a large local dealer. The first question I was asked by the salesman was

"do you have any disabled relatives?"

When I replied "no", he said thats a shame,

"I could have saved you thousands"


I was asked the very same questions when we were first looking to buy a motorhome. We were told that if we took them on holiday regularly, or something to that effect, a new motorhome would be VAT free.

We do have relatives that are registered disabled, but it seemed immoral to use this excuse to avoid VAT, we declined the offer as something did not feel right with this advice.
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Peter, JCM.
How did you get on with the inspection did the vat want the money from you or the customer in the end ??


Hi Subaru,

No we won hands down!! Revenue retreated from what I remember of the two cases we had.

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But a word of warning:
Any salesman that comes out with 'get VAT free if you have relatives' needs shooting as it is totally illegal to evade VAT and it is fraud.

You sign the forms and if caught you could face heavy penalties and have the MH seized.

Saleman couldnt care less. he sold one and got his cut.

Very naughty.

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Last year when we changed our Motorhome we went to a certain dealer west of the M6 from Staffordshire and we were offered a VAT free motorhome. Not just offered but pushed.
We were told that any relation, no matter how distant and no matter what the disability was as long as he/she had a orange badge in their car.
It was so tempting but it was too good to be true. I checked into it on various web sites and what I found was that the disabled person has to be confined to a wheel chair or stretcher and any other disability would not qualify.
The particular dearer told me that my relative with cronic asthma would qualify and that all I had to do was sign the form.
I declined as I suspected that the VAT man could chase me for the unpaid VAT plus interest plus a hefty fine.
At least I can sleep at night.
edit,
Oh the dealer told me that all we had to do was take the disabled person out in the M/H once per year


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So are you saying there is no come back on the dealer whatsoever, its all down to the purchaser?
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It was so tempting as we could have got the M/H of our dreams that we could otherwise not afford Embarassed

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