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Seems the VAT people are having a purge on the supply of VAT free MH's to disabled people.
We had a VAT inspection last week and and the only thing they found was the supply of a couple of VAT exempt MH's.
It now appears that the holder of a diasbled badge is NOT entitled to a VAT exemption and the only MH that they (our VAT inspector) will accept is one that has been specifically adapted for disabled use.
They are now going to chase the owners for the VAT as they have signed the disablity declaration.
Grab handles etc and other minor disabled facilities do not qualify, neither does the auto box option, the disabled charities website advice is of no interest to them.
Any comments?
Peter
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They're simply upholdng the law as it has been for several years. Dealers and customers can get it in the neck by ignoring the rules, which are on MHF, many times, unambiguously. The dealer can have a HEAVY fine, and the customer the vehicle confiscated.
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They're simply upholidng the law as it has been for several years. Dealers and customers can get it in the neck by ignoring the rules, which are on MHF, many times, unambiguously. The dealer can have a HEAVY fine, and the customer the vehicle confiscated.
Dave
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I have heard of dealers who state that the swivel seats are a modification in their own right, allowing a wheel chair user to get from the wheel chair to the driving seat.
I agree with Dave's opening line.
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It now appears that the holder of a diasbled badge is NOT entitled to a VAT exemption and the only MH that they (our VAT inspector) will accept is one that has been specifically adapted for disabled use.
Peter
That is how I understood it.
Someone set it out in these forums, chapter and verse, some time ago.
It was said at the time that some motorhome suppliers bent the rules but in fact the rules can't be bent, they are quite clear.
I remember going into an RV dealer and being told about this exemption. They went to the length of suggesting to me that my mum buys it so I would get the discount.
I walked away but it was tempting. I had not heard of the exemption before.
So if I had bought the RV and saved the 17.5% I would now be sat wondering where I was going to find it.
It is all very well saying that people should know better and should have done what I did but I know how sales people work. I also know they are very good at getting people's trust. Is it fair that those people might now have their vans taken off them. It will probably the same dealer who sold the vehicle to them who will get to buy the van back at a stupidly low price and then make a whopping profit on it.
I not tarring you with this brush Peter, I am sure selling just two was a mistake but I think some dealers were doing it as standard to sell new vans
Just to clarify something, as an ex-VAT Inspector - if the declaration is found to be incorrect i.e. the person isn't entitled to the VAT relief the dealer will be charged the VAT by HMRC and it will be up to him to try to recover the money from the customer. This is because the dealer has to satisfy himself that the person is eligible for the relief before applying it - simply being in possession of a declaration is not enough.
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if the declaration is found to be incorrect i.e. the person isn't entitled to the VAT relief the dealer will be charged the VAT by HMRC and it will be up to him to try to recover the money from the customer
That's correct (well, you don't need me to tell you that, do you ). So if the dealer "encouraged" the process and subsequently fell foul, and the disabled customer relied on the dealer's information, the dealer would morally (I would suggest) have some difficulty in trying to pass his cost on to the customer. In fact, I can't see how he could have a legal case as the customer bought the van for the price agreed by the dealer.
The stick/deterrent on the end-customer has to be greater than I infer from your post though, Patrick; if that's all that happened everyone would be trying it on - if you win, you pay no VAT, if you lose, you just pay what you should have done anyway?!
Dave
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). So if the dealer "encouraged" the process and subsequently fell foul, and the disabled customer relied on the dealer's information, the dealer would morally (I would suggest) have some difficulty in trying to pass his cost on to the customer. In fact, I can't see how he could have a legal case as the customer bought the van for the price agreed by the dealer.
