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Dogs and Morocco
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My understanding is, that it is illegal to bring a dog back into the UK after a visit to Morocco unless it goes through the 6 month quarantine period.

From a recent post by someone trying to be helpful, suggested there are ways around the above.

If people are getting "around" the problem then IMHO I believe them to be totally irresponsible. All we need is some pet dog imported disease and the whole scheme would be in jeopardy.
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Hi! Don't worry, I've contacted Defra and the French equivalent. If the dogs spend 6 months in France after returning from Morocco, there is no quarantine. As I have a home in France and am planning to spend the rest of 2009 there, there is no issue. I reckon you are right to be concerned. Thanks!
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Hi J

It wasn't your post, that prompted me to start this thread. But there may be a little business for you, looking after dogs in France after they have been to Morocco, before returning to the UK. Laughing

You probably wont know, but "getting around the problem" as been raised here before, and while we all love our dogs I for one would hate the passport scheme to stop because of someone bringing their dog into the Uk that shouldn't have.
Because if that happened the M/H might as well go, due to it being very rarely used here and we wouldn't go away without Charlie the Greyhound.
Sad or what, but thats the way it is. Rolling Eyes

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Hi there, this is a subject I have an interest in as I would love to return to Morocco but now we have 2 dogs we cannot unless we put them into kennels which I would never do unless it was absolutely unavoidable. Doesn't the blood test you have to have done prior to boarding the ferry or eurotunnel at Calais detect if any animal has picked up rabies?

I wish Morocco would join in the pet passport scheme as I am sure they would find there would be a major increase in tourism if they did. I used to think Morocco was not part of the pet passport scheme because they must have a higher risk of rabies over there but from what I can gather it is no more risky in Morocco than it is in France and Spain!

I have often been puzzled by all this blood testing and find it all a bit confusing so if anyone can explain why the UK should refuse entry to any pet that has travelled to Morocco but the blood test has come back clear I would be interested to know?

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Sonesta wrote:
Hi there, this is a subject I have an interest in as I would love to return to Morocco but now we have 2 dogs we cannot unless we put them into kennels which I would never do unless it was absolutely unavoidable. Doesn't the blood test you have to have done prior to boarding the ferry or eurotunnel at Calais detect if any animal has picked up rabies?

I wish Morocco would join in the pet passport scheme as I am sure they would find there would be a major increase in tourism if they did. I used to think Morocco was not part of the pet passport scheme because they must have a higher risk of rabies over there but from what I can gather it is no more risky in Morocco than it is in France and Spain!

I have often been puzzled by all this blood testing and find it all a bit confusing so if anyone can explain why the UK should refuse entry to any pet that has travelled to Morocco but the blood test has come back clear I would be interested to know?

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Hi Sue,
It's a bit more complicated than that I'm afraid. There are many parasites that we have to worry about importing back here, some of which are transmitable to humans. My French vet explained quite a bit to me about this, and I promptly left my 'doubt' at the door. Rabies is a big problem in Morocco (see the RABIESWATCH website), but it's hard to tell if vaccinated pet animals are really the proper targets for pedantry. Another vet tells me it's imported/exported farm animals that are the real story, but Defra is happy to go after easily traced animals like our dogs. It costs me a total of £130 to take my dogs on a trip to France. I suppose I should be grateful for the alternative to quarantine, but all this cash for a drontal tablet and a Frontline pipette??? Things that make you go hmmmm.
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Sue,

YOU DO NOT NEED A BLOOD TEST TO RETURN TO UK.

Once the Pets Passport has been issued (the pet will have had the blood test as part of getting the pets passport) all you need to return to the UK is:

Tick & Worm treatment (Frontline & Drontal) and travel must be 24 hrs after this treatment and before/up to 48 hrs after this treatment. Not beore or after this 24-48 hr window.

Also once the Pets Passport is issued all you need to then check is the validity period of the anti-rabbies vaccination, some are for 2 years and some are for 3 years. The pet must be travelling with this up to date and must not let anti-rabies lapse even by a day as you will have to start all over again.

So blood test is only done ONCE during the Pets Passport procedure unless of course the blood test showed no immunity then of course it would be a repeat anti-rabies vaccination and a repeat bood test.

If going South France/spain etc we usually also buy Advantix and the collar for Leissmanisis (sorry wrong spelling) to cover other things.

We also take our own Drontal/Frontline, it can be bought cheaper online.

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JacSprat wrote:
Hi Sue,
It's a bit more complicated than that I'm afraid. There are many parasites that we have to worry about importing back here, some of which are transmitable to humans. My French vet explained quite a bit to me about this, and I promptly left my 'doubt' at the door. Rabies is a big problem in Morocco (see the RABIESWATCH website), but it's hard to tell if vaccinated pet animals are really the proper targets for pedantry. Another vet tells me it's imported/exported farm animals that are the real story, but Defra is happy to go after easily traced animals like our dogs. It costs me a total of £130 to take my dogs on a trip to France. I suppose I should be grateful for the alternative to quarantine, but all this cash for a drontal tablet and a Frontline pipette??? Things that make you go hmmmm.


Hi Jac,

Thanks for that as I was quite puzzled by all the confusion but am still slightly confused by what exactly the blood test is checking for?

I was shocked when you said Rabies was a big problem in Morocco as I had been told differently but it just goes to show you cannot beleive everything you are told can you?

By the way I have looked for the RABIESWATCH website that you mention but couldn't find it anywhere despite asking for help from Google so can you send me a link to it as I would be interested to read it and see what other countries carry a risk.

Thanks again

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zulurita wrote:
Sue,

YOU DO NOT NEED A BLOOD TEST TO RETURN TO UK.

Once the Pets Passport has been issued (the pet will have had the blood test as part of getting the pets passport) all you need to return to the UK is:

Tick & Worm treatment (Frontline & Drontal) and travel must be 24 hrs after this treatment and before/up to 48 hrs after this treatment. Not beore or after this 24-48 hr window.

Also once the Pets Passport is issued all you need to then check is the validity period of the anti-rabbies vaccination, some are for 2 years and some are for 3 years. The pet must be travelling with this up to date and must not let anti-rabies lapse even by a day as you will have to start all over again.

So blood test is only done ONCE during the Pets Passport procedure unless of course the blood test showed no immunity then of course it would be a repeat anti-rabies vaccination and a repeat bood test.

If going South France/spain etc we usually also buy Advantix and the collar for Leissmanisis (sorry wrong spelling) to cover other things.

We also take our own Drontal/Frontline, it can be bought cheaper online.


Thanks Rita,

As you probably know from being a member of this forum our early return back from our foreign trip in November was very sad as we lost our little dog Angel in a tragic accident whilst in Sicily so because of this we never did the return visit to the vet prior to boarding at Calais. So for some reason I just assumed your dog had to undergo another blood test!

We now have 2 dogs a Bolognese (like Angel) called Candy Kisses who we went to collect immediately we returned home from Italy and our latest a little boy Bolognese called Buddy. We have only had him for 3 weeks and he is just adoreable.

We took him to the vets immediately in order to commence his pet passport so come next autumn both our little darlings will be able to accompany us on our planned trip to Greece!

Anyway, thanks for the explanation and I am glad I understand it all at last.

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Sonesta wrote:
JacSprat wrote:
Hi Sue,
It's a bit more complicated than that I'm afraid. There are many parasites that we have to worry about importing back here, some of which are transmitable to humans. My French vet explained quite a bit to me about this, and I promptly left my 'doubt' at the door. Rabies is a big problem in Morocco (see the RABIESWATCH website), but it's hard to tell if vaccinated pet animals are really the proper targets for pedantry. Another vet tells me it's imported/exported farm animals that are the real story, but Defra is happy to go after easily traced animals like our dogs. It costs me a total of £130 to take my dogs on a trip to France. I suppose I should be grateful for the alternative to quarantine, but all this cash for a drontal tablet and a Frontline pipette??? Things that make you go hmmmm.


Hi Jac,

Thanks for that as I was quite puzzled by all the confusion but am still slightly confused by what exactly the blood test is checking for?

I was shocked when you said Rabies was a big problem in Morocco as I had been told differently but it just goes to show you cannot beleive everything you are told can you?

By the way I have looked for the RABIESWATCH website that you mention but couldn't find it anywhere despite asking for help from Google so can you send me a link to it as I would be interested to read it and see what other countries carry a risk.

Thanks again

Sue