Swift Juddergate Forums

Telbell

I've posted on this Forum in the hope that Peter or someone from Swift might see it and like to comment:

There are two recent Posts on O and A which refer to Swift M/homes being subjected to Juddergate.

Can you please have a look at
http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10368&start=241&pos ts=251
(scroll down page a bit)
-sorry-posted in haste no time to tinyurl it!

SwiftGroup

Just to let you all know that I have seen the threads on this topic and we have raised it with Fiat.

I will respond when I get an answer.

Regards
Kath

Telbell

MikeH

Hi.
I have just been informed by Fiat, that, following an inspection and approx 60 mile roadtest, ( which they deny, wouldn't need to drive that far) that my MH does not suffer with judder and there is nothing wrong with it. I was advised to rev to above 1300 when reversing. Written report to follow next week. I asked about an Independent Engineers Report, and was told , they (Fiat) wouldn't accept it, because their engineers can't find anything wrong.
The left hand is saying, "there's nothing wrong". and the right hand is saying "it's a characteristic of the vehicle"
When are they going to hold hands and admit "there is something wrong"?
Mine judders on the slightest incline with or without revs.
On the O & A forum, a garage in Swansea reckons, they have changed about twenty gearboxes, because of this.
Mike H.

Telbell

Hope I don't get into bother for this Embarassed

but it's worth following the Juddergate threads (all four of them!! Laughing

) on OandA especially Andy Stotherts Posts

38Rover

Wow 20 gearbox's that's a real eye opener and even the reluctant FIAT must have taken real notice.I wonder how many were for a second or subsequent time if all this could be confirmed it would add much weight to the campaign on OUT AND ABOUT LIVE trying to get FIAT to own up to their responsibilities.
Were the new gearbox's any different to the originals I wonder?

Colin Frier

riohog

I have a 2008 kontiki 645 and to park on my property I have to reverse up quite a steep gradient, now if I do not give it plenty of revs and ride the clutch it judders mercifully. I dont mind as it only takes a couple of minutes of slipping the clutch to complete the murnouver without judder, but in this short space of time you can smell the clutch burning.
I am wondering how long the clutch plate will last and if it will be replaced under warrantee. Whether it is a design fault that could be resolved with a more heavy duty clutch kit or a lower reverse ratio I dont know? Proberbly the former whitch would be a more cost effective recall!
Fiat do have an issue here but in my case how long will the clutch plate last 5000 miles or 75000 miles. I can put up with the burning smell if it is the later.

Safe Riding, Ha Ha.

Riohog

MikeH

Riohog.
Go to outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums there are three threads on there all about Fiat clutch judder.
Mike H.

Grizzly

Telbell

Grizzly

I make no apologies for this. The reason I mentioned Swift specifically is that Andy Stothert tested some Swifts and found the "judder"-. He mentioned the Swift by name- hence the link I provided.

The Swift company took up the cudgels as regards Water Ingress and have been in contact with Fiat about that particular problem. They came up with their own fix and this has been well documented. Swift seem to have led the way so far as I have seen from many Posts on that topic.

I asked the question in the opening Post to establish whether they had also been in contact with Fiat about the "judder".

It seems they have, and Kath was content to confirm this the day following my initial Post. Kath has promised to update us following any reply from Fiat and I am content to await such an update.

I'm surprised that you seem to have taken this as a criticism of Swift. Rather, it's a reflection of the fact that they have been proactive as regards other x/250 problems and I was wondering if they had recognised that customers had identified Judder problems and establish that dialogue was taking place.

I'm sure all current and prospective owners of x/250's look forward to any response Fiat make to Swift.