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About 2 months ago we stayed at Southport CC. site. On getting up the next morning noted we had no electricity, site mains plug had tripped re set by Warden no problems.
This week we have been to London about 0430hrs awoke quite cold no electric. Checked my trip switch no problems. Checked site trip switch and it had tripped. This happened on the next night again.On returning home connected mains and put the 230 volt heating on worked ok but when I increased the temperature and the booster kicked in both the Van and the home tripped out. I would have expected whilst on site for the Van to trip first not the site. The only other thing we had on at night was the Fridge. It also does not trip immediately but after some hours. Any suggestions have thought it may have something to do with the thermostat.
 
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Perhaps you would expand on your thermostat reasoning.

Sticking with the nice, controlled environment of your home hookup, what is its supply rating to the van, and what wattage demands were you placing on it (I have no idea to what "booster" refers).

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Hi,

All you are doing is overloading the trip switch supplying the hook up lead.

It could well be that the trip on site is only 15amp, same as the one at home.

The main MH trip could well be 25amp and the lowest amp one will trip first.

I have the same problem on my boat if I put too many appliances on at once. The shore supply will trip with it only being 15amp.

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and is it the mcb or the rcd tripping one on over current the other earth leakage

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Hi could it be a faulty heater?We had one that worked fine on a low setting but tripped out on a higer setting after a bit say 1/2 to 1 hour?
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First of all thanks for the replies and secondly me and Electric are like two negatives.
I will try to answer some of the suggestions
On site neither the RCD or the MCB tripped only the site switch, at home the RCD tripped.
When there has been a trip the only appliances running were either the Fridge and the Erberspacher heating or on the occasion I tried it at home the heating only. Dave to explain better the Booster I meant the heating fan as it is blown air. The reason I suggest the Thermo stat is to get it to trip out today I had to increase the temperature to get the heating to kick in and thought this would need the thermo to operate. I could accept this happening if i was sat with the Tele, lights and Kettle going but this happens only with the heating.
 
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If it were me and I was confident the site supply exceeded the van demand, then I'd probably:

1) Run a separate cable from the house to the van, and check the same tripping happened (ie, test cable by substitution). If it did:

2) Measure the resistance between the mains input terminals at the van with mains cable disconnected.

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DABurleigh wrote:
If it were me and I was confident the site supply exceeded the van demand, then I'd probably:

1) Run a separate cable from the house to the van, and check the same tripping happened (ie, test cable by substitution). If it did:

2) Measure the resistance between the mains input terminals at the van with mains cable disconnected.

Dave

Don't think there was any need to swear at me. Very Happy Now remember about my description of me and electricity. Have I not run a separate cable by connecting my cable to a point in the house already as for measuring the resistance now you have lost me. Wink
 
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So you know for definite you don't have a fault in the cable to the van? That was what I was establishing in 1).

Basically I am trying to establish :

a) do you have a fault? I can't be definite on this as you didn't answer my supply versus demand power question.

b) if you have a fault, where it might be. There the principle is to check the most likely or easiest to eliminate sources first.

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grumpyman wrote:
First of all thanks for the replies and secondly me and Electric are like two negatives.
I will try to answer some of the suggestions
On site neither the RCD or the MCB tripped only the site switch, at home the RCD tripped.
When there has been a trip the only appliances running were either the Fridge and the Erberspacher heating or on the occasion I tried it at home the heating only. Dave to explain better the Booster I meant the heating fan as it is blown air. The reason I suggest the Thermo stat is to get it to trip out today I had to increase the temperature to get the heating to kick in and thought this would need the thermo to operate. I could accept this happening if i was sat with the Tele, lights and Kettle going but this happens only with the heating.


I would suggest that in both cases that it is an rcd tripping (site supply is likely to be rcd protected) and therefore we are looking at an earth leakage problem not overcurrent.

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