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393138 PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:50 am Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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What I also find irritating are the overhead matrix signs telling you the Toll road is clear. More useful information would be to tell you whether the toll free route is clear. Still, that might lose them some money - or am I just an old cynic??


I was working in Birmingham when the toll road was being built. I believe that the electronic signs which display the message "M6 Toll Clear" (when have they ever displayed a anything else?) are owned and operated by Midland Motorways, the operators of the toll road. Thats why they never display any information about the old M6 route.

Another reason that toll rates are so high for anything other than cars or motorcycles, is that they don't want "heavy" vehicles wearing out their road.

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Another reason that toll rates are so high for anything other than cars or motorcycles, is that they don't want "heavy" vehicles wearing out their road.
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and run at a loss???

Could be its the same ploy as the Skye Bridge, build up a body of complaint and eventually government will be forced to buy them out at a fat profit. One of the first things the newly formed Scottish Parliament did was to buy the Skye bridge for Ģ27 million after Ģ33 million in tolls had been collected by the owners. It was reckoned it only cost Ģ25 million to build!

In Norway, once the tolls have covered building cost, the facility then becomes free.

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Road charging for the M6
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Please be aware that if no one uses the M6 toll road then all sorts of plans could be put in place to get the money in
How about road charging on the M6 (the cameras are in place) or lots of road works on Spaghetti Junction
Or even closing the motorway because on an 'accident'
Don't say that I didn't warn you!
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I used to travel M40 / M42 / M6 to Stockport a lot and varied between M6 and M6 toll and at the time i would rather pay the toll than sit in the traffic and face delays around M6 Birmingham. The toll cut an hour off my journey. Pay or Delay I would rather pay, however this is a MH forum and if i travelled that way in my MH for leisure and time did not matter then maybe i would avoid the toll. At least i could put kettle on and use loo if traffic was stationary.
Dont know the miles difference between both but the way fuel is rising it may be cheaper to take the toll soon especially if you have a thirsty MH.
I think they have the same problems in Spain i recentlly drove 92 Kms on a toll motorway mid morning and only counted 6 vehicles in total both ways, guess the spanish have already started to avoid them!
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skimbo wrote:
Please be aware that if no one uses the M6 toll road then all sorts of plans could be put in place to get the money in
How about road charging on the M6 (the cameras are in place)
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I can see them introducing congestion charging if only to reduce polution in Birmingham but I don't think it is a question of whether the M6 toll is used or not!

I'm like mep(Mick), I use it with my car, for which I have a pass, but never with the motorhome.

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skimbo wrote:
Please be aware that if no one uses the M6 toll road then all sorts of plans could be put in place to get the money in
How about road charging on the M6 (the cameras are in place) or lots of road works on Spaghetti Junction
Or even closing the motorway because on an 'accident'
Don't say that I didn't warn you!
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Roads are closed all over the Country by the Police, very often as I have seen it when there has been no need. Why should the M6 be any different?.

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mep wrote:
I used to travel M40 / M42 / M6 to Stockport a lot and varied between M6 and M6 toll and at the time i would rather pay the toll than sit in the traffic and face delays around M6 Birmingham. The toll cut an hour off my journey. Pay or Delay I would rather pay, however this is a MH forum and if i travelled that way in my MH for leisure and time did not matter then maybe i would avoid the toll. At least i could put kettle on and use loo if traffic was stationary.
Dont know the miles difference between both but the way fuel is rising it may be cheaper to take the toll soon especially if you have a thirsty MH.
I think they have the same problems in Spain i recentlly drove 92 Kms on a toll motorway mid morning and only counted 6 vehicles in total both ways, guess the spanish have already started to avoid them!
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Hello Mick,

But on those occasions, how many times have you seen the signs "congestion junction 8 & 9" still used the old M6 and found no congestion?.

It would have to be a very thirsty motorhome because at Ģ18 return thats is still four gallons of Diesel.

I would use the toll in a car but not my Working Van or MH as just as the author stated it is a rip off @ Ģ9.

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Roads are closed all over the Country by the Police, very often as I have seen it when there has been no need. Why should the M6 be any different?. Trev.


You're only jealous because they don't bother to check with you before they did the closure. Any serious suggestions as to why the Police might close a road if there were really no need?

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