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As a group of people sharing the same hobby we should be responsible at all times and where it says you can't overnight we shouldn't.
I don't think we should ever camp anywhere other than designated sites unless no sites are within a reasonable distance or there are none. So called wild camping gives us a reputation for being cheapskates among other things.
I didn't see anything offensive in your post Ted.
Cheers,
Greg.
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Having read all the above posts, it has occured to me that the Forestry Commission own a huge amount of land, with lots of car parks.
Now wouldn't it be nice if we could come up with some membership system whereby we make a contribution to their Forestry Fund each year in return for 'car park passes' that allow us to reside over night in their car parks. They could apply rules such as maximum of 48 hours stay, so that would possibly overcome the problems of travellers. They wouldn't have to 'do' anything, but they could make quite a bit of money from it, which they could then use to develop more forestry.
Perhaps we as a community of MH's could approach them with some sort of well thought out proposal. Is just a thought, it would certainly give us plenty of choices.
They already have, its called Forest Holidays, now run by the C&CC, but you have to pay!!
Every time I use their facilities its a different price, seems their booking system is so complicated none of the staff understands it. So, i just lie through my teeth, no dog, under sixteen, OAP, war veteran etc. They get so confused!! Some times I win, sometimes I lose!!..
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I don't blame you for fibbing a little, Ģ4 it cost me for my two little dogs for one night this past weekend and they couldn't even go out on the grass, I had to take them off site!
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Long, long ago, travelling late, we parked up in a layby on the hillside overlooking Dubrovnik. We were woken early the next morning by the sound of people chattering - they had formed an orderly queue around our van which just happened to be parked at the local bus stop.
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This weekend we were in Cornwall for a family party and wanted to park near to the venue to avoid taxi fares etc.
There was a very handy public car park which was clearly signed for no overnight camping with a potential Ģ60 fine. A relative who has been a major force in local politics for a number of years told us that they were very keen on this in this area as they were concerned about people overstaying their welcome and causing problems so they felt that they needed the bye-laws to protect themselves.
At the time of the discussion we had parked on a wide public road, also near the venue with no parking restrictions so we asked whether we could stay there overnight. No problem!
Now please don't come back and tell me that parking there was potentially dangerous - possibly so but that is a personal preference.
My point is that it does make you wonder why a bit of sensible discussion between local authorities and responsible motorhoming organisations cannot find a solution to the problem. They obviously are not bothered about having us in their towns but they are tied by worries about inappropriate use.
Brian
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we honestly love wild camping. Not because of the money, we can afford to go on camp sites, but because of the fun: Fun to be away from it all, to spend the night at places where the only noises come from sheep or birds. Fun to be under a really dark night sky. And it goes without saying that we never leave any traces behind.
But we do respect "No overnight parking" signs. Unless we have the explicit permission of the owner to stay there nevertheless.
Over the years we have established some "golden rules" regarding finding wild spots:
We never try to find a wild spot after sunset. If we have not found a place before it gets dark we go to an official site. (As we mainly travel in Germany or France there is practically always an "aire du camping-car" or a "stellplatz" nearby.)
If we are in a town that has an official "stellplatz" or "aire", then we use it.
We always inspect the place before settling down. No matter whether it is official or not. If something is dodgy about it, we move on.
If the place is private, or ownership status is not clear, or if there is an inhabited house nearby, we go and ask. On practically all occasions so far we were very welcome to stay.
If there is a parking place sign, and/or a pay&display machine that allows us to pull a parking ticket for the night, we consider this as an invitation.
However: While we do accept regulations regarding how, where and how long to park our van, it is of no ones concern what we do inside it while it is (legally) parked. So we have ignored signs like "No cooking in vehicles", and will continue to do so.
Best Regards,
Gerhard
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