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The thread was started with reference to places where a sign stating 'No Overnight Parking'. was displayed.
I think that many have not really noticed that!?
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I am all for wild camping where it is reasonable and will not cause damage or endanger me and my van. It may be a cut off layby where a road has been straightened or a carpark it may be the promenade of a saeaside resort. It may be in a National Park or on Forestry Commission land, there may or may not be no overnight stay signs.
Each one will have its specific considerations, at what time am I arriving and leaving, is the restriction a national one enforceable by police or a local one enforceable by a local authority? If the latter is it likely that a jobsworth civil servant will be out and about to enforce whilst I am there.
I also consider what my effect will be on the environment, local housing, the view, access etc, I don't want to make a nuisnace of myself or drop fellow motorhomers in it by my bad example
So mainly I would avoid Forestry Conmmission, and National Trust and National Park facilities. There will be wardens, many will be volunteers and officious
many local authority car parks are a safe bet apart from the threat of the sign, No one is going to get up to chase you off, but do leave early
The ones I do perverse pleasure from the most are the seaside resorts who seem to have a total ban on motorhome parking, let alone overnight stays. I agree that a line of camper vans along the prom, spoling the view is not good, but a quick overnight, well, I will take the risk and be gone before the Town hall switchboard opens at 09.00
Until we get local and public authority aires why not?
The tyick is not to stay long, just enough for the sleep over and then off, have breakfast elsewhere and don't go back two nights running or stay all day
Unless you have consent
Whatever you do be clean and tidy
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The thread was started with reference to places where a sign stating 'No Overnight Parking'. was displayed.
I think that many have not really noticed that!?
Oh yes I have noticed that.
And I have said that we do respect these signs, unless we have the land owner's explicit permission to stay there nevertheless.
However: If a whole region is swamped with such signs (or other motorhome deterrents like height barriers), then it might happen that we get the feeling to be not welcome there, with the natural consequence that we move on and spend our money elsewhere...
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Gerhard,
Quote:- "If a whole region is swamped with such signs (or other motorhome deterrents like height barriers),"
I do live in a region like that where, as already stated, every field and track is blocked with very large bales of hay or large rocks or, in the case of the forestry land, locked barriers.
Another case is a very picturesque seaside town where during the day MHs/Campervans line the front blocking site of the sea for all the visitors. But, the real problem was that those same vehicles then parked at night in the few narrow streets literally next to the small cottage bedroom windows. That practice has now been stopped!
Obviously the tiny minority of MH'ers who actually frequent this site are possibly very considerate etc but when some people are prepared to camp next to 'no overnight parking' signs I get rathor irritated.
I don't want the whole of Britain to be fortified against 'large vehicle visiters'.
I have no problems with 'wild camping', I've slept in more fields, barns and ditches than most, but it is a very delicate balancing act.
I shall be in Utrecht a couple of times in June on my way to and from Germany, I hope it's easier in your part of the world.
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I'm a very "sitting on the fence" sort of chap, not wishing to cause upset. but I do wonder what makes some people think that they are above the law. Even if that law is "only made by the landowner"......as far as coastal resorts are concerned there are lots of local businesses who depend on travellers to use their facilities.
Sorry if I upset anyone, just my opinion.
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I'm a very "sitting on the fence" sort of chap, not wishing to cause upset. but I do wonder what makes some people think that they are above the law. Even if that law is "only made by the landowner"......as far as coastal resorts are concerned there are lots of local businesses who depend on travellers to use their facilities.
Sorry if I upset anyone, just my opinion.
I don't think it is a question of felling you are above the law. It's more a case of ignoring petty rules.
It always fascinates me why the british as a nation complain about petty beaurocracy, yet fall over themselves to comply with it. I suspect the avereage french m/h'er would consider it his birthright to stop overnight in such a situation.
If most disagree then fine. If it was an epidemic, then there would undoubtedly be a crackdown.
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My tuppence worth is that those who really want to wild camp unlawfully or without permission will do it anyway, so I fail to understand why they keep seeking support from threads like this to justify conduct that is essentially either tolerated trespass or flouting petty regulations - even if their intentions are to do no harm and leave no trace of their visit.
There will be a problem for everybody if unauthorised wild camping gets too concentrated in certain areas, i.e. areas of outstanding natural beauty or coastal resorts.
Even if only a relatively few motorhomes are involved, this could be perceived by the relevant authorities and landowners as a persistent nuisance. The result is more likely to be local car parks etc. being closed to motorhomes. The authorities won't draw distinctions between the Traveller community and bona fide motorcaravanners needing an overnight stop.
SD
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