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419939 PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:36 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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I dont want to be the test case either, but, earlier on in this thread I was taken to task, (maybe with others )for not going being absolute, and checking up before posting and saying its der lorr, even tho' I actually researched it before applying to my hgv. and consequently considered that if the DLVA tell me I need to comply with licence( sic) regs that must be at least a regulation.

Therefore, today, I went to the government site to check up, did what another post did, i.e. pasted and copied from the dlva, and .....and now, I'm still not offering the right answer. apparently. Please explain, somebody, how, just how can I be critqued for not copy and pasting the government, and then have the same for doing so?

DLVA Leaflet D100, entitled, ( with great imagination) what you need to know about Driving Licences ( their highlights and spelling) page 13, section 10. if anyones interested, and this is a page can be referenced on the DLVA website.


its like a virtual copy of my house. I'm always wrong there too.


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olley wrote:
Hi its all down to FACTS and OPINIONS, the DVLA give an OPINION based on what they believe are the FACTS.

I believe GT's OPINION backed up by a lot of research was that according to the C&U, its not an HGV or a Coach which leaves only "Heavy Motor car" which means you can drive it on a car licence irrespective of weight.

Whether its sensible to do so is an entirly different matter. And I took my "C" because like the DVLA, GT's is only an OPINION.

Olley

I agree with Olley and for once with George it is not law it is opinion. If you look at the definition of a goods vehicle, heavy or light. it a vehicle designed to carry or bear goods. Or was when I used teach road transport CPC. Certainly a motor home does not fit within that definition and so only leaves a heavy motor car which can be driven on a normal licence. As can 8 wheel plus mobile cranes weighing 40 tons or more.
But like Olley I have a LGV license and would suggest its best to have an LGV license rather than being the person to argue the case in court

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Also from DLVA publication D100,

page 12

section 7.
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Hi Bandaid it will all be settled soon, 2010-2012 I believe when European harmonisation of driving licences takes place, nobody will be able to drive any motorhome over 3.5tons without a "C" and that includes "grandfather rights" you lose them.

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Olley, I've neen f*rting around trying to make sense of this subject. I really would prefer to avoid 2 things,

(i) to be the test case whether an HGV is required

(ii) to cop for a pair of 3 pointers on my licence.

Mind I'd prefer not to have to pay out over a grand in total for the HGV if I dont need to , but I 'm not risking it.

Its ridiculous. On the DVLA website, it states " that it isnt the law, and you ( the reader) should consult a solicitor, then next to that it say, you need, need an HGV to drive a motorhome over 7500kgs.
theres even an offence code LC20 which is for driving a vehicle outside of the licence qualification.

Confused Question Question Confused

If nothing else, I aint gonna get picked up for not quoting references on the forum again I've learned that much anyway.
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Hi Bandaid I agree entirely Laughing

Olley

PS. I often quote without references, gives people something to shout about. Wink

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Didn't mean to start a furore, sorry. Very Happy

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Here we go again!! GT WAS WRONG

Now can any of the enlightened who are adamant that a C1/C licence is not required please show me where it states that in the Driving Licence Regs?

The Regs, if you care to read them, only refer to vehicles of particular weights (unless its a passenger carrying vehicle where number of passenger seats is the determining factor), nowhere in the classifications do they mention the term HGV/Motorhome/Car/Heavy Motor Car etc.

Loddy, my advice is go and get yourself properly trained and licenced, protect yourself, your family and other road users and enjoy your driving Smile

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Hello,

Looking at the quotes facts and figures, it makes sense to take the HGV test, as expensive as it is. Lets face it RV's in comparison to your every day car, even a Toyota Landcruiser they are huge. So some training might be of benefit to a lot of people, especialy those who may have been limited to <3,500kG's.

Otherwise I suppose if you are a full timer and have no fixed address you could always tell them you are a Gypsy, they get away with almost everything else don't they?.

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