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A lot of reading but, as I understand it, XP 32bit will not recognise 4gb ram.
64bit does, however, and from all accounts, runs much quicker than Vista. A post in the reply likens Vista with 4gb to running XP with 2gb.


Thank you for that. I do remember sometime ago problems with XP and 2gb but I am sure it was reporting 4gb as I cannot believe I have not looked at the reading in all this time. But hey, I am old and getting more stupid by the day so it is entirely possible. Now thinking where to go next.

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XP 64 BIT?

Do not go there!

A staggering number of everyday programs will not run under it.

Including DOS- my historic DOS accounts going back 15 years? - Zilch!

Antivirus? The only one with 64bit capability is AVAST! - all the other household names? Nada!

Scanners? You'll be lucky!

And so the list goes on.....


I agree, to some extent, however, your info may be out of date as AVG is available for the 64bit platform.

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I have got most things working on my PC with 64bit XP running.

However, I was merely pointing out the fact that 64bit recognises the full RAM capacity. If the option was to go out and buy a 64bit XP or Vista, I would plump for Vista. Or, live with the reduced RAM.


I cannot live knowing I have only 3gb of ram so Vista here I come. Thank you for all the time and trouble explaining it to me.

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A lot of reading but, as I understand it, XP 32bit will not recognise 4gb ram.
64bit does, however, and from all accounts, runs much quicker than Vista. A post in the reply likens Vista with 4gb to running XP with 2gb.


Thank you for that. I do remember sometime ago problems with XP and 2gb but I am sure it was reporting 4gb as I cannot believe I have not looked at the reading in all this time. But hey, I am old and getting more stupid by the day so it is entirely possible. Now thinking where to go next.


I am sure it WAS reading 4gb. The problem appears to manifest itself with the update to SP3.

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Vista (32 bit) can only see 3GB of RAM. You need the 64 bit version for 4GB or more...

I have found that provided you use the latest hardware Vista is stable so only put it on a new machine.

Oh, I've been using Vista (Business and Ultimate) for well over a year now and it still drives me to distraction Evil or Very Mad I have restorted to installing Virtual PC with XP to do the things that Vista can't do properly or won't do thanks to those shortsighted pr&ts in the RIAA.

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..........XP to do the things that Vista can't do properly or won't do thanks to those shortsighted pr&ts in the RIAA.


That's why I stick with XP. Vista, for me, is too restrictive.

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As far as I know 32 bit versions of Vista have the same memory problems as Xp in that they cannot fully address 4GB. Vista service pack 1 has altered the way that the amount of memory is reported. People with 4gb were only shown with 3 - 3.5.

Apart from the fact that Vista takes twice the power to do what XP does it looks very nice.

Clean install of XP and upgrade to XP sp3 - you know it makes sense.

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Herman wrote:
.............upgrade to XP sp3


That's what started his problems!

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Herman wrote:
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As far as I know 32 bit versions of Vista have the same memory problems as Xp in that they cannot fully address 4GB. Vista service pack 1 has altered the way that the amount of memory is reported. People with 4gb were only shown with 3 - 3.5.

Apart from the fact that Vista takes twice the power to do what XP does it looks very nice.

Clean install of XP and upgrade to XP sp3 - you know it makes sense.

Regards

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Many thanks and I suspect you are right. I have just had another bizarity with Svc pk 3. All my outlook express subfolders have either disappeared up their own backside or have become folders in their own right.

I have ordered a ready made box with Vista on it and while I am waiting I will do what you have said as having got Vista on a laptop I much prefer XP anyday of the week. I think I may simply go to svc pack 2 as I was happy with that. No issues and I know then I can find my cloaking device parts and time warp components so I can really thrash some aliens. Very Happy

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