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423711 PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:52 am Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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where do i start !! i know this has been talked about a hundred times or more and i have tried to look at the old posts,but i can not find a definitive answer.Why does it have to be so complicated,considering overloading is such a serious offence i think it should be easier to understand.
We loaded up yesterday for the weekend trip and called at our local weighbridge(not a v.o.s.a one) . According to the operator we was slightly overloaded overall,underweight on the front axle,overweight on the rear.(i had the fresh and grey tanks both full to give us the worst possible scenario)
Sat in the van now trying to make sense of it all !!!
this is how our plate on the step reads...
3490kg (we were 3520)
5200kg
1. 1750kg (we were 1400)
2. 1900kg (we were 2160)

not sure what the 3490 and the 5200 relate to,according to the manual the 3490 is max gross weight of vehicle with trailer and 5200 is max gross weight of vehicle

can anyone elaborate on this please .. Confused

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Hi

When you went on the weighbridge, were you both in the van?

Where are the fresh and grey tanks located and what are their capacities?

3490 is the max weight of your van fully loaded - you, water, cats, dogs, buckets etc.

5200 is the max train weight - ie weight of your van and trailer cannot exceed this amount.

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hi russell,(we are the people with the weim talking to you at the beverley rally...dont know if u realise ) everyone was in the van and the tanks are just forward of the rear axle,regarding the weights on the plates 3490 and 5200 it says in the manual opposite to what your saying,the smaller number is the max weight when towing a trailer and larger number is when not towing a trailer,i understand your thinking,my thoughts were the same,hence the confusion Confused
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Hi

Right then, said the school teacher....

Are you able to take a good quality photo of the actual weight plate on the motorhome? This will be either under the bonnet or, just inside the door. Small metal square with info stamped on.

If you can post the pic, I think that is a good place to start.

It is possible that there is a mis print in the manual? How about a scan of the figures?

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Here are some photos of the plate with weight limits and Dethleffs manual telling you what they mean. Confused

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Hi if you take the 3490 from the 5200 = 1710 that means means you can tow a load upto 1710 kgs say a car on a trailer.

The 1750 is the max weight allowable on the front axle.
The 1900 is the max weight on the rear axle.

As Russel said the 3490 is the max weight fully loaded.

So looking at the weighbridge figures you was over weight on the rear axle by 2160kgs.
If it was me start by dumping the waste tank you should never be in a position where by you would have to drive with a full tank very far.

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takeaflight wrote:

So looking at the weighbridge figures you was over weight on the rear axle by 2160kgs.
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Over by 2160kg ???? surely you meant 260kg. (2160-1900)

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Hi, Would everyone interested in this post please look at the first photo i attached (click on it to make larger) and read item E, if you correspond the weight on the plate to this it comes out at 5200kg surely this is my max weight ...

With what we had on board yesterday, even taking in to account both tanks were full, i dont think we should have been anywhere near overloaded. We wasnt carrying bikes, generator, nothing excessive and was only going away for 2 nights !! What about these people who carry a motorbike on the back? I'm convinced our max weight is 5200kg it says it in black and white in the manual.

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looks like you have 2 problems . rear Axle overload and gross vehicle weight overload, best not to fill fresh water tank and not travel with any grey water in tank , but you would not do this anyway, 1 ltr water =1kg this sould bring you within your limits, remember if you got pulled for a weight check , you could be made to park the untill you comply, they wont let you drive away if you are overloaded, and they do stop M/h's
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