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We´re busy going nowhere isn´t it just a crime.We´d like to be unhappy but we never do have the time
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The following members of MHF thanked carolgavin for this posting
The survey has three no's in effect as both the "wisk I'd not bought" and "wish I had old van"are also negative responses. What is alarming/worrying is the number who had wish they'd not bought the new van. (a fifth up to now). If you add these to the no's most people would not buy a new fiat or peugeot (or citreon I suppose).
When someone is spending £30-£50 on a van and they wish they'd never bought it, you cannot help but to feel for them.
The following members of MHF thanked Broko for this posting
We voted yes because we really enjoy driving our Fiat based M/H. It does exactly what is required of it. It's a joy to drive and a few weeks of duct tape at the bottom of the windscreen did not diminish our enjoyment of the vehicle. We didn't get up early each morning so that we could be miserable for longer worrying about minor things that were soon sorted.
We had all the 'updates' done by Desira of Diss and we could not be more satisfied by their service.
Two proud Fiat owners
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The following members of MHF thanked suffolkian for this posting
I bought my van knowing about the water ingress problem, but the judder at that time was only just gaining momentum, so I didn't see it as an issue to affect the purchase. As it transpired, on my particular van, what judder there is, can be controlled quite easily. The water ingress is just a few drops here and there, as the fix has been professionally applied.
I've had a brand new Merc car back and forth to crap dealers and can see there are design faults in all price ranges. There's also plenty of bad press about all the main base vehicles for motorhomes, but the Fiat gives the most choice. I easily get backache in the Merc, but the Ducato is so much better in terms of seat comfort. I've recently done a couple of three-hour journeys non-stop and my back didn't ache at all.
I know people harp on about the Renault, but choice is very limited for van conversions, I don't like their overall look, and it's an older technology chassis. Mercs are so much more expensive, that it seems reasonable to accept that for about ten grand less, the Fiat isn't going to be quite as good. However, I really don't need whatever all that extra money would bring.
It seems the Fiat has been spoiled by crap customer service and often the Fiat dealer network. I've yet to put this to the test, so I reserve the right to change my mind. But at the moment, I have absolutely no regrets in buying my Ducato van.
Shaun
The following members of MHF thanked Shark for this posting
When someone is spending £30-£50 on a van and they wish they'd never bought it, you cannot help but to feel for them
Of course Broko no one couild argue with that.
I think the Poll should be allowed to run a while yet though-there must be many more x2/50 owners on here who haven't yet registered a vote.
(an extra dimension of course would be to ask those who HAVEN'T got one whether they would, in the light of existing issues)
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The following members of MHF thanked Telbell for this posting
I have actually had 2 new peugeots, the first temporarily (I wont go into details about why here, have done so on an earlier thread)
Both were the 3 litre, and are superb to drive, quiet, very good ride and immensely powerful. The first did give me some engine problems - lack of power caused by faulty butterfly valve. The issue here was that peugeot took a month to get the parts.
Neither had any juddering problems. Both leaked water through the scuttle, but I have fixed the new one myself with sealant around the windscreen base. It took about 10 minutes and is now OK.
So not perfect, but very good overall and a deal better, in my view, than the Sprinter I had before.
The following members of MHF thanked sailor for this posting
If you have dealer problems may I recommend Sherwood Iveco near J28 of the M1. They had several motorhomes in for repair on the day that my Twin was done. Very pleasant and efficient.
The following members of MHF thanked rowley for this posting