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Outer edge of tyre rubbing on wheelarch
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Hi, I have a T Class Hymer and recently I noticed that the outer edge of the rear o/s tyre has been very slightly intermittently rubbing on the inside of the wheelarch.
Not all the time but looks like it has been rubbing when cornering with body roll doing the deed.
The gap between the tyre and the inside of the outer arch is less than 1/2 of one inch.
This is on a Fiat Maxi Chassis with uprated suspension (3 leaves).
I have now put Airide on to help stop the body roll.
Just wondered if anybody else has come across this?

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Hi Grath, Just curious to know if the gap measures the same on the other side wheel?

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MandyandDave wrote:
Hi Grath, Just curious to know if the gap measures the same on the other side wheel?

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Hi,
yes when on level ground, well nearly as about 1/4 inch difference (max)
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Perhaps the wheel rims and/or tyres have been changed for something wider at sometime !!! Check out the original rim and tyre specs for the vehicle and chassis !.

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teckie wrote:
Perhaps the wheel rims and/or tyres have been changed for something wider at sometime !!! Check out the original rim and tyre specs for the vehicle and chassis !.

Teckie

Thanks,
Pretty sure it is on original wheels
Maxi Chassis with suspension upgrade and 16 inch rims

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Hi Grath... just a thought.. maybe you have your suspension lifted too high as the tyre does seem to be wider nearer the thread end than the rim end after inflating !... just looked at mine and the edge of the wheel arch is about half way up the tyre with a gap of about one and half inch clearence each side !. My Air Ride is inflated to 45psi.

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teckie wrote:
Perhaps the wheel rims and/or tyres have been changed for something wider at sometime !!! Check out the original rim and tyre specs for the vehicle and chassis !.

Teckie

Hi Teckie,
Thanks but that is not the cause.
I originally thought of Airide as I thought that it would lift the body up to a narrower part of the tyre but having looked at it carefully, it would make no substantial difference either up or down.
But I decided to proceed and have it fitted thinking that if I can stop the body roll it would be cured. I have since only driven back from the Stratford show and it has not rubbed since, but it is still too damn near and I just wondered if anybody else had come across this.

Another thing is that this is the wheel that is under the corner bed with lots of storage always full, but there is no evidence of the suspension sagging on this side as appose to the other side. Both bump stops were about the same distance from the chassis before the Airide was fitted.
The only thing is that the van is parked on ground leaning towards that wheel.

I also thought as previously mentioned that it may be a 15 in versa 16 in wheel problem, but I have since seen a similar model with 16 in wheels and with about 1 in clearance but this other van was not on a Maxi Chassis and did not have uprated suspension.

I can see nothing wrong with the running gear and the M/H has just passed a MOT by a pretty stringent tester and he noticed how tight it was and I would therefore think that he may have paid extra attention to that side, in fact he did as he mentioned that this particular tyre was a little worse than the rest. These Michelin Camping tyres always seem to crack on the sidewalls (another subject).

Getting back to the wheel arches, I am aware of the closeness and we have run for a year and all has been ok, I am thinking that this was a design or build error.
I could put 15 inch wheels on, but as I run pretty heavy all the time, I do not want to do this.
I have noticed that the vin plate under the bonnet and the reg docs both say 3500kg, however the Hymer build plate on the side of the body says 3900kg and I therefore think it would be just a paper excersice to have it uprated to 3900 on the reg docs and I am thinking of going this route so I need the 16 in wheels.

I am today having 4 of the new Michelin Agilis fitted (hope they are better)
My M/H has only done about 10,000 but before we had it and we have had it for a year now, it stood for about 1 year and this is not good for the tyres, (maybe this caused more cracking than usual)
I have no idea how deep the cracks are and to air on the side of safety, I decided to replace all 4 (costalota)

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