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461105 PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:28 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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geraldandannie wrote:
I think what tends to be forgotten in the well-publicised 'issues', is the other side of the coin. We're preparing to go on holiday with our motorhome, and are looking forward to it with excitement. Yes, we've got the scuttle issue; yes, we've got the reversing issue; but they won't impact much on our enjoyment over around 2,000 km from here to there and back again.

Gerald


Well said Gerald, hope you have a whale of a time.

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GerryD wrote:
I fail to see why Swift should explain their business decisions to members on this forum. Swift are a very successful company and their recent reputation for quality is constantly receiving accolades onthis forum.
They are only answerable to their Board and shareholders. If they are satisfied that they can maintain the quality of their product using the Fiat chassis then that should be good enough for the growing number of satisfied owners.
Gerry


Fair enough and whilst I might accept the statement if she had simply said it was for business reasons and left it at that but what she actually said was "nothing else compares with the Fiat X250 in respect of its suitability for motorhome conversion. "

A strong statement that aroused my interest as to it's basis since some other MH manufacturers clearly have a different view and judging by the many threads on here some Fiat owners haven't been pleased with their purchase and ensuing service.

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461117 PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:04 am Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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JohnsCrossMotorHomes wrote:
Well said Gerald, hope you have a whale of a time.

Thanks, Peter. I'm sure we will.

Non motorhomers ask why we changed from our 2000 Autosleepers Pollensa (a lovely motorhome) to our 2007 Chausson. Apart from the layout, which suits us better now we know a bit about motorhoming, and what we really want, there is a huge difference in the chassis.

Our old van drove and felt like a 'white van' with a big white box stuck on the back. It was slow, it handled badly, and the steering wheel was offset from the seat - a case of "it's only a van, this is where the wheel ends up, live with it".

Our new motorhome feels much more integrated. It's smooth, quiet, powerful, very easy to drive, has a lot of nice and useful mod cons, and handles well (slight reservation about the wider track at the back, which doubles your chances of finding lorry tyre ruts to follow). I don't know about other makes (I have driven a Merc Sprinter a lot in the past, and didn't enjoy the experience as much), but I wouldn't be put off buying a Fiat Ducato again.

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SwiftGroup wrote:
Swift have no intention of changing our base vehicle from Fiat. We have previously looked at other manufacturers base vehicle and nothing else compares with the Fiat X250 in respect of its suitability for motorhome conversion.

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Kath


Whilst it may not be my place to say this, I will say it anyway. Swift should consider changing to Peugeot base units as

(a) Peugeot give a full 3 year warranty, many Fiat owners have only been given two years.

(b) Peugeot have been more sensitive to customer complaints and have gone out of their way to fix the water ingress issue on my van and are now going to fix the judder issue by changing the gear ratio.

(c) Peugeot engines are I believe more economical than Fiat (I get 35MPG just tootling about)

(d) Peugeot base units share the same chassis as Fiat

I am absolutely horrified by the way in which my fellow Motorhome Owners have been treated by Fiat and their so called Customer Care and associated dealers.

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johnc wrote:
SwiftGroup wrote:
Swift have no intention of changing our base vehicle from Fiat. We have previously looked at other manufacturers base vehicle and nothing else compares with the Fiat X250 in respect of its suitability for motorhome conversion.

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Kath


Whilst it may not be my place to say this, I will say it anyway. Swift should consider changing to amateur base units as

(a) Peugeot give a full 3 year warranty, many Fiat owners have only been given two years.

(b) Peugeot have been more sensitive to customer complaints and have gone out of their way to fix the water ingress issue on my van and are now going to fix the judder issue by changing the gear ratio.

(c) Peugeot engines are I believe more economical than Fiat (I get 35MPG just tootling about)

(d) Peugeot base units share the same chassis as Fiat

I am absolutely horrified by the way in which my fellow Motorhome Owners have been treated by Fiat and their so called Customer Care and associated dealers.

Regards

John C


John C.... I have got to make you absolutely right about FiART and their shoddiness and lack of customer care.very amateur company who couldn`t give a toss IMO. Evil or Very Mad

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johnc wrote:
(c) Peugeot engines are I believe more economical than Fiat (I get 35MPG just tootling about)
John C


I can certainly agree with this point John, as I get the same. Very Happy Very Happy

As I posted some time ago, while on holiday in Ireland I got chatting to an English motorhomer with a Fiat, and we thought our engines were the same.

He could hardly believe the mpg I was getting, and we lifted bonnets during the chat (as you do! Rolling Eyes )- only to find completely different engine blocks inside. His a 2.3 and mine a 2.2, but he was getting only about 24mpg as I recall, and in his words, "while wearing glass slippers".

The vans were about the same size too.

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JohnsCrossMotorHomes wrote:
carol wrote:
Biglol

We have the automatic - it doesn't have the judder - so if you like the Swift - order it on the automatic
carol


Autos rarer than hens teeth at the moment!!

Peter



With an increase in retail price of 9% as well coming soon, perhaps the autos will hold their value better than the manuals?
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