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41333 PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:08 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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Hi Mike

I did ask about the servicing and was told only on servicing and maintaining the Adaptations, but reading it through you are correct, she was mixing up sec 6.1 and 6.2

Makes you laugh how people get away with it. and how people who could do with help are shuffled aside.

Local court case, chap called as a witness, the case was delayed because this witness was on holiday one month in Caribean.

Turns up to the court in a brand new TOR Range Rover, in the introductory questioning he was asked about employment he declared himself unemployed, with a little probing it turns out he as never been employed since leaving school, also that his address is a very posh BIG house which he owns outright.

He's early 20's , its probably not rocket science to guess that he is involved in some kind of criminal activity, does anything get done? not as far as I am aware.

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41334 PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:00 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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At last found the documentation knew it was 701/59 but the government keeps altering its web sites and the bookmarks I had didn't work. Click [url=http://www.hmce.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageLibrary_PublicNoticesAndInfoSheets&propertyType=document&columns=1&id=HMCE_CL_000128]here[/url] for information.

Sectio 2 details 4 conditions which must be complied with, we were both right George because you must be a wheelchair user as well as have adaptations carried out one of which should be to allow wheelchair access.

Anyhow those interested can read for themselves.

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41335 PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:20 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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[quote="bognormike"]
george - agree that to get zero rating on a new vehicle now, the user must be disabled enough to be a wheelchair user (not just occasionally, but most of the time), but [u:2c5d2f6798]maintenance is of all work on the vehicle[/u:2c5d2f6798], so if it was supplied zero rated for a disabled person the maintenance should be zero rated. see section 6.1 of vat notice 701/59 (2002 version). Garage will need to check the original invoice for the sale of the vehicle and keep a copy of this from the customer for VAT records.
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Mike,
Our postings seem to be crossing in the ether, you have just ruined my day.

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The VAT zero rated purchase does seem to apply to wheelchair users now and not ambulant disabled people.
That was not previously the case. Someone with a terminal illness is classed as disabled, but if they can walk - well tough now thanks to the changes.
Zero Rated Road Fund still applies and no changes have been made, if you used to qualify, you still do .
Regarding servicing, my understanding is it is similar to purchase of goods/equipment - if it is for the use of the disabled person you could supply a VAT excemption form to the supplier certifying it is for a disabled persons use (ie scooters/wheelchairs etc)
Not all suppliers will accept these as it means a bit of work for them over and above.

I draw my experience from a voluntary office in a disbaled peoples charity with both ambulant and wheelchair members and upto now touch wood havnt fell fould of the C&E (mind you our treasurer does work for C&E -VAT section !!!!!!)
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in my original post the people i was talking to had not had the mh fitted for wheelchair access - all they had to do was have a rear mounted box to carry the wheelchair in when the disabled person was using the mh. don't know how this fits into the rules and regs but that was definately the situation

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Well it always going to be down to the dealers discretion but there are supposedly severe penalties for:

a) the dealer if it can be shown he has not made sufficient checks on the validity of the claim. Even with my wife's obvious disablilty we still had to produce evidence of entitlement and sign a declaration.

b) the purchaser for making a false declaration and vat evasion.

Unless someone is absolutley certain they fit the requirements I would advise always seek the advice of the published help lines.


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Hi all, Me and the Wife bought our MH last year, Swift Suntor 600S, and as the Wife is disabled, and a wheelchair user we got the van vat free, and adapted into the bargain with winch, ramps, small wheeled chair to fit ramps, all for the reduced price 25k.

The only thing the Wife had to do was to get a letter from her local GP stating that she was a wheelchair user, and this qualified her for the vat free price with HM Customs and Excise.

Hope this in some way helps

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