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The big difference here is that they want to make themselves a name and money, I bought my dogs to love.
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We watched it even Rich was brought to tears seeing it, not often a thing to see with him. We were both disgusted. Rich has always had German Shepherds and thought the breeder he brought them from was a good'n until we saw the programme last night as she always maintained the stance of the sloping back was correct, no wonder they suffer from hip problems. Rigger our latest German Shepherd is a pedigree but with no papers he is a rescue dog, but would not be a show dog he has a lovely straight back doesn't have the frog legs, he also has only one testicle( had an op to remove the undescended one) and not all his teeth have grown through, he is 4yr old.
We have a friend who up until recently had 3 cavaliers two have died within a short space of time this year, on with heart problem, the other had the large brain( although she died of cancer) the one that is left suffers with his heart.
Back in the sixties I had a school friend whose parents had 2 pugs and from what I can remember their faces were not as flat as they are now
These breeders who stick to their guns about so called breed standard and inter breeding need *$^&$£"!£%^^&*&I*)((**%$£
(Rich has just walked in to the office and wants to put his penny worth in).
Lets get rid of the Rhodesian ridge back and have a Rhodesian smooth back! That breeder who bred them and wouldn't have one without the ridge wants to have a long conversation with a person with a hunch back or spine disorder and get their opinion of what it is like, as an animal cannot tell you

Well done BBC, Mark Evans and the RSPCA
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My wife & I found ourselves unable to watch after a few minutes. The final straw was the Pug breeder who said there was nothing wrong with the breed!
When we got Pushka (pedigree Siberian Husky) there were relatively few & the breed was very strong. The Siberian Husky Club actively encouraged people not to breed without checking with them as they were trying to stop the sort of things shown last night. Then that bl**dy stupid Disney movie Snow Dogs made the breed popular & now rescue centres are full of huskies 'cos unscupulous breeders sold them to anyone. As soon as there's money envolved the care for the dogs seems to go out of the window. We went back to see our breeder when we were nearby & the change over 3 years was heartbreaking.

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I was astounded when they said that they were trying to keep the breeds pure, yet when they showed pics of the dogs a hundred years ago there was no resemblance at all, like Lindyloot said about the GSD nothing like the originals.........yuk
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It certainly did not show the KC or breeders in a good light. Interbreeding should be illegal and the continued breeding of "endangered" dogs stopped.
If you have any love of animals, go and get a rescue one. I have only ever owned one pedigree dog and whilst it lived until 16 years of age it was not as healthy as the Bitsas I have owned and still own. I cannot see the point of dog shows other than to try and increase the monetary value of any outcomes. What does the Jockey Club do with regard interbreeding of racehorses. They certainly have to have a clean bill of health. I have it in the back of my mind it is not allowed?

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IMHO, the Kennel Club should be outlawed, and the breeding of dogs to a Standard, arbitrarily decided by so called experts should be immediately made a capital offence.

I dont think that breeders really care about the long term problems dogs have when they look at the money involved.

A friend of mine has recently paid nearly £800.00 for an Irish Wolfhound. Winning Crufts or other high profile shows, merely serves to bring a breed into the public eye, which then increases the fashionable saleability of the breed which puts the price up.

I have hated the standardising of breeds since I can remember, GSD with hip displacement. The degree of slope in the back of some GSD is so obviously going to cause problems with diplacement only an idiot would fail to see it.

Pug, French Bulldog, English Bulldog, Pekinese, their respiratory passages with a face like that are surely so degraded in efficiency they pant constantly and seem to be in dsitress at the smallest of exercise.

Dalmations with epilepsy, Labs with mental health problems, and dont get me onto the docking of tails issue. OH and rotties, with legs too short and bodies so heavy they become arthritic in a couple of years, Danes with a life span of 8 on average, and fall to bits in 5 years...according to my Vet anyway, and persoonal experience of english Mastiffs with congenital heart defects from close breeding with other " perfect" examples.

The only saving grace, is that Border collies are still working dogs ( well a few are) and they come in so many shapes and sizes they are hard work to standardise. Most of the Farmers who own them, are more intersted in their ability to herd than what they look like, thank the Lord.

Small, obviously odd, unnatural breeds are just nausiating, as they are clearly bred for an ornamental purpose rather than for the benefit of the dog.


I apologise for the length of post, but not for my intense distrust and dislike of the KC.

this is a personnal opinion, I may be entirely wrong, but its still my opinion. no expert tho'

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I didn't need to as I work in a veterinary practice and see first hand the horrors of intensive breeding. Bull dog bitches that can't have puppies naturally because of being breed with a very narrow pelvis. Pekeinese with squashed faces so they can't breath and their eyes pop out so easily and GSD's who go off their legs at 5years old and don't get me started on tail docking Grrrrrrrr I thought it was supposed to be only done by vets! I don't know any vet who agrees with tail docking but you only have to watch crufts to see it still goes on.
Stick to rescue mongrols I say, they are never ill and have no inbreed diseases common in pure breed dogs. why pay up to £1000 for pure bred trouble when you can give a home to a dog that needs one.
I am on rescue dog number 5 and we love him to bits.
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Stick to rescue mongrols I say, they are never ill and have no inbreed diseases common in pure breed dogs. why pay up to £1000 for pure bred trouble when you can give a home to a dog that needs one.
I am on rescue dog number 5 and we love him to bits.


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as it happens tho' I got a Border Collie and a Belgian Shepherd. both are, I s'pose pure bred, but thems both rescued.


Cant see why they were ababndoned in the first place, but , someone elses cast offs are my delights now.

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