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60% Overhang
42717 PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:56 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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Hi All,

The overhang of body of our new Hymer equates to 60% of the wheelbase.

I am aware that the Construction & Use Regs state that 60% is the maximum permissible overhang....but I don't know if this is referring to the body or the body and any rear attachments.

I'm hoping to hang an Easylifter scooter rack on the towbar.....the weight is no problem as we have twin wheels on the rear axle.

Any comments/ifo greatly appreciated

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David & Angie
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David & Angie,

Irrespective of rear axle loading, don't forget you will unweight the front axle by a considerable amount with a rear load on a large overhang.

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42719 PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:03 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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Hi Dave,

Thanks for that...we've done a calculation based on another post on this site....and a 120kg scooter and 30kg rack adds 230kgs to the rear axle and unloads the from by 80kgs!

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My Hymer has a fair overhang too, and with bunks at the back it made it rock around a bit when parked up, especially when Polo galloped about and jumped on and off the bottom bunk (I know I shouldn't let him but that's how it is). Wink even my bulk turning over had an effect.
I went to the expense of having rear steadies fitted, beautifully designed by Herr Hymer except on my model they are fouled by the part of the chassis so don't go up all the way Shocked and VERY expensive but it cured the problem. I would suggest finding a cheaper and better fitting alternative though.
Just need to remember to wind them up again before you drive off.... Rolling Eyes

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Hi

I asked Construction and use about this for my last bus (the bus overhang equated to 60% of the wheelbase) it is there belief that this would include any extra fittings ie if its 60% already then any addition would have taken me over.

Many motorhomes appear to ignore this and have scooter racks etc which take them over, I have never heard of anyone ever being done for it though, as anyone else?

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Hi all,

Thanks for replies.....we've now looked at the European regs and are even more confuse!!

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Don't forget the handling, steering and braking characteristics will all be adversely affected by the extra loading. The biggest issue will be the pitch and yaw on uneven surfaces. It is noticable on our Rapido with 3 bikes on the back, (55 kg including rack) and that is inside the 60%, just.
As for the legal issue, yes the 60% does include any extras, even a towball, and it may cause problems in the event of an insurance claim if you are over the recommended overhang.
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Most vehicles have a max towball load of 100kg - with that weight you get some pitching
It would appear that you would be over that from your calcs
Also taking 60K's off the front wheels will effect the stearing quite a bit

You could attatch a trailer if the scooyer is necessary
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