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Have been looking at the layout of your low profile motorhomes. Can you explain how the 680 FB can be a 4 berth when there is only one belted passenger seat. Where are the other 2 passengers supposed to sit?
Very disappointed as we were hoping to buy a Swift low profile motorhome (have always been Swift stable caravan owners) but really need the 4 belted seats.
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I am not 'Swift' ( in any meaning of the word ) but ....
When the Bolero and it's stablemates were introduced the 'FB' was listed as a two berth but there was obviously potential ( and may have been actual ) possibility for the front lounge seats to be converted to a double bed.

Swift's website update for 2008 then listed the 'FB' as a four berth, but as it does in fact have only two travel seats those extra beds will no doubt be for visitors to use once you are on site ................ my 2006 Autocruise has the same number of beds / seats.

It would be helpful if Swift's ( and others ) brochure / website details made it clearer for potential purchasers.

You won't get a layout that has front lounge parallel seating like the Bolero's, that also has forward facing passenger seats unless you find one of the few that has a convertible L shape with belts.

All just my opinion .....
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Nethernut wrote:
Can you explain how the 680 FB can be a 4 berth when there is only one belted passenger seat.


Very common. It is legal to sit without a seatbelt if there are none.

Many 6 berth vans cannot carry the weight of 6 adults. Some must travel separately.

Daft ?

Probably.
 
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I'm sure Swift can answer for themselnves Jan but they are by no means the only manufacturer who provides more berths than homologated travel seats. A situation that some believe should be made illegal to avoid the risks should someone be tempted to carry more passengers than there are safety belts.

I'm assuming the standard type response is that the two additional beds are 'alternatives' for the two users or for 'visitors' who arrive by another means of transport.

If you go for a Voyager 685FB you get the same rear layout but a front dinette with two belted seats instead of side benches. You will have to put up with an overcab which again makes the van provide two berths in excess of it's seats. Still you can look upon it as extra storage.

Mind you'll pay for the privilege as the Bolero is £40,030 and the Voyager lists at £42,430.

As Swift have now brought out Low Profile versions of the Kon-Tiki range it may not be too long before they offer dinette versions of the Bolero. What about it Peter?

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Hi

Have a read of the link below from the Swift website re the Voyager going "low line".

http://www.swiftleisure.com/SwiftGroup/News/NewsArticle/Prope rties/NewsID-155

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Why don't you contact Swift directly instead of using a public forum????????
 
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Why don't you contact Swift directly instead of using a public forum????????


My mistake - thought others on the forum may be interested in the answer.
 
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Anyway it looks like they do just what you want for the '09 season Jan, a low profile Voyager 680FB with a dinette, 4 belted seats and 4 berths.

'09 prices have risen with the Bolero 680 OTR £44,285 and the Voyager 680 @ £46,245.

Thanks to Russell for pointing out they intend to make 'em, I'd probably read it somewhere but forgotten. Tempus fuses it.

SDA Very Happy
 
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Steamdrivenandy wrote:
Anyway it looks like they do just what you want for the '09 season Jan, a low profile Voyager 680FB with a dinette, 4 belted seats and 4 berths.

'09 prices have risen with the Bolero 680 OTR £44,285 and the Voyager 680 @ £46,245.

Thanks to Russell for pointing out they intend to make 'em, I'd probably read it somewhere but forgotten. Tempus fuses it.

SDA Very Happy

Trouble is that the 680 FB isn't "low profile" but is "low line" and is also over 3500 kg.
Ah well - just have to go with our second choice (Burstner).
Jan
 
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Ah well - just have to go with our second choice (Burstner).Jan


Which is where we ended up looking for lots of seat belts for grandchildren.

The grandchildren have hardly ever been in it mainly due to them being 200 miles away which is exactly what the Barron's salesman predicted.

We have been very pleased with it. Next week it goes in for it's new 5 year timing belt all ready for Morocco next year.
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