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hilldweller wrote:
Nethernut wrote:
Ah well - just have to go with our second choice (Burstner).Jan


Which is where we ended up looking for lots of seat belts for grandchildren.

The grandchildren have hardly ever been in it mainly due to them being 200 miles away which is exactly what the Barron's salesman predicted.

We have been very pleased with it. Next week it goes in for it's new 5 year timing belt all ready for Morocco next year.

Ours live just a few minutes away so see lots of them - we help out with childcare when daughter in law is at work. We try to get away with them 3 or 4 times a year at least. We definitely want a low profile for various reasons.
Good luck with your Morocco trip - friends of ours did it a few years ago with a caravan, spent several months there - this is a link to their story if you are interested:
http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/articles/view.asp?id=109
 
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Nethernut wrote:
Ours live just a few minutes away so see lots of them - we help out with childcare when daughter in law is at work.


You are very lucky. And so is your daughter in law. Seeing grandchildren is possibly our biggest expense.

>> We definitely want a low profile for various reasons.

I think it's the way to go for fuel economy but bed over the cab does make a lot more space for living.

I'll read that log later.
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We can understand the potential confusion around motorhome occupancy and it would be clearer if we could conveniently equate berths to travelling seats. The problem is that it would not satisfy all customer requirements. When we first introduced the Bolero 680 it had only two berths (ie the rear double) but customers soon persuaded us to make the front seating convertible to another double to provide “flexible sleeping arrangements”.

To help avoid confusion we state clearly in all our motorhome marketing information the number of designated passenger seats (ie with belts and correctly homologated) and refer to berths as “sleeping positions”, implying a choice of which beds are used.

As pointed out on here, the front end of the Bolero 680 would adapt to a half-dinette with two extra travelling seats. The only reason we have not done that is that the 3.5 ton chassis is not sufficient for 4 people, luggage etc if the calculations are done correctly and honestly; that is the reason we have now introduced the Voyager 680FB on a 4 ton chassis. Before you dismiss it as just a low-line and not a genuine low profile, you should see it – the inside and outside are very impressive. Double check other brands who offer 4 seater versions – what is the genuine payload once the weight of two extra occupants, seat belt frame etc has been allowed for (officially about 200kg). Check how the payload is calculated and if variation in the ex factory weight has been allowed for in the MRO. Swift motorhomes are not inherently heavy, it’s just that we are being honest by offering the 4 seater only on a 4 ton chassis.

Regards

Kath
 
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Steamdrivenandy wrote:
A situation that some believe should be made illegal to avoid the risks should someone be tempted to carry more passengers than there are safety belts.

HTH

SDA


If it was made illegal, it would also be illegal to stand up on a bus?? For practical reasons when the seat belt laws were introduced there were many exceptions for not having to wear a seat belt.
 
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A very clear explanation, wish more manufacturers would explain the design criteria in such terms.
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