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594698 Post Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:00 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote Back To Top

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Kev_Behr wrote:
Not at all Carl, there have been a few suggestions, none worked so far though, I've tried the keys both fobs, even the master key, but no joy, I just fence it in at night now, it's more secure then if it was locked up Smile

Kev

Hi Kev,

If the central locking works okay when you operate the latch on the lock plate of the habitation door with a Phillips screwdriver, whilst it is open, then it cannot be the central locking at fault. However, when you close the habitation door, the central locking malfunctions.
This points to the connection made between the habitation door and the door frame, or more likely, between the lock plate and the lock catch. I cannot get away from the strong possibility, that we are looking at misalignment.

Are the hinges screwed to the frame? If so, it could mean realignment on the hinge side, rather than on the latch side.

Sorry Kev, but this one has really got my attention. Confused

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Hi Kev

I had a similar issue on the cab doors (Boxer) of my Autocruise. This was back before I had a replate and was really struggling to get below the plated weight for the rear axle.

In short, it looked like I could carry a 25 litre water container on the step inside the passenger door. It was OK at first, but then the doors started to lock/unlock as you have described - with the container removed, the doors locked normally. Although the doors were fully closed, the resistance from the container must have been influencing the alignment just enough to confuse the locking mechanism.

Not a very technical answer, I'm afraid, but the symptoms sounded familiar.

Hope you get it sorted.

Mike
 
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Hi Kev
when you test the lock with the door open I presume the lock moves to the second closing position. If you gently push the door closed can you feel the first and second positions engage. sometimes if a door has been slammed to often the striker pin can be pushed back, leaving the lock on the first catch. If you cant feel the lock click into the second position, try moving the pin outwards until it does.
 
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NormanB wrote:
Hi Kev,

I have the same problem with our Laika Kreos. (I also tried to adjust the door to stop the wind whistling in but afterwards, didn't get the problem you report.)

However, I do get the problem (electronic key triggers locking and then it unlocks again immediately) if any of the doors don't quite shut properly. When the Taylor Made screens go on, sometimes I get the problem - I believe because the thickness of the insulation is preventing one of the cab doors shutting fully.

You might also check that the outside lockers are fully closed - on mine, they play a part in the vehicle security system.

Please let me know how you get on - I would like to resolve my locking problems too!


Hi Norman,

Sorry my pockets are smaller than yours:) I can't afford screens, and I don't have any lockers either, now get on with fitting that solar gear, there'll be an inspection later:)

Kev.

JockandRita wrote:

Hi Kev,

If the central locking works okay when you operate the latch on the lock plate of the habitation door with a Phillips screwdriver, whilst it is open, then it cannot be the central locking at fault. However, when you close the habitation door, the central locking malfunctions.
This points to the connection made between the habitation door and the door frame, or more likely, between the lock plate and the lock catch. I cannot get away from the strong possibility, that we are looking at misalignment.

Are the hinges screwed to the frame? If so, it could mean realignment on the hinge side, rather than on the latch side.

Sorry Kev, but this one has really got my attention. Confused

Jock.


Hi Jock,

I have checked the alignment, even the locking plate on the door frame, is absolutely spot on level and vertical, so it's not an alignment problem.

loughrigg wrote:
Hi Kev

I had a similar issue on the cab doors (Boxer) of my Autocruise. This was back before I had a replate and was really struggling to get below the plated weight for the rear axle.

In short, it looked like I could carry a 25 litre water container on the step inside the passenger door. It was OK at first, but then the doors started to lock/unlock as you have described - with the container removed, the doors locked normally. Although the doors were fully closed, the resistance from the container must have been influencing the alignment just enough to confuse the locking mechanism.

Not a very technical answer, I'm afraid, but the symptoms sounded familiar.

Hope you get it sorted.

Mike


Hi Mike, I don't think it can be a the same problem, all that's in the door way is the Laiks bin on the door itself, but it ways very little and we don't use it anyway, so it's always empty, and we don't stack anything in front of the hab door, as it's an emergency exit at night.

teamsaga wrote:
Hi Kev
when you test the lock with the door open I presume the lock moves to the second closing position. If you gently push the door closed can you feel the first and second positions engage. sometimes if a door has been slammed to often the striker pin can be pushed back, leaving the lock on the first catch. If you cant feel the lock click into the second position, try moving the pin outwards until it does.


Hi teamsaga,

Now this seems like it might be a possibility, I don't have time now to look, but it could be similar to what Jock was saying, not exactly an alignment problem as such but he said it differently, and I didn't quite make the connection (sorry Jock). I did move the striker pin further into the door jam to make it close more, and that's when my problem started as already explained, but I also put it back to its original position as I'd marked it with a needle to see how far I had adjusted it, and I put it back to its exact marks.

I must confess it's starting to get on my thruppenybits.

Kev Smile
 
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I messed around with the door alignment for ages, and whether that fixed it or if a cable moved or whatever it works now, not been a problem since, but the door closes better than it ever has, so don't think it was moving the lock plate.

Laika were brilliant with info on the problem.

Kev.
 
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