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We both have std 18-55 lenses, and I have a 80-300zoom.
I'd like a wide angle or a converter (if they're actually any good) I'm fairly new to Digital so not entirely sure what to go for, the sort of thing I want it for is if I see a nice view, I don't want to either reverse 20 miles to get it in shot, or take multiple shots and stitch it.
Cash is of course Very Tight, so used but not abused is the flavour of my needs, I'm not David Bailey so don't need the very best good enough is in this good enough.
Do any of you chaps or chapesses have anything I might be tempted to buy, or can offer some advice as to what to look for, I have of course been to Ebay, but the terminology escapes me, some are trying to sell the lens I got as std, as a wide angel which it is up to a point I suppose, but not what I need.
Unfortunately, good wide-angle lenses are expensive. In 35mm film format, a 28mm is considered a 'standard' wide-angle, and a 24mm is as much as most people can handle comfortably. A 20mm will enable you to include your feet if you are not careful. Now with most digital SLRs the sensor is smaller than a 35mm negative and so you have to have shorter focal lengths for an equivalent wide-angle. Assuming the Canon format is similar to Nikon (about which I know a lot more) your 18mm wide-end of the zoom, is equivalent to a 28mm film lens. So you already have a 'standard' wide-angle. To get something wider, you are going to have to fork out the 'readies'. For example, the link below is to a 10-22mm W-A zoom but it costs £560. Cheaper options would be a non-Canon but compatible lens from a brand like Tamron, Tokina or Sigma, or buy a second-hand Canon lens. This is often a very good option as people buy stuff then realise they don't use it that much and trade it in.
Thanks for that and the link Philip, what are the converters like are they any good at all, or a waste of money, as I don't like to carry lenses when I'm out and about, but if I could have a converter it would allow me to have the 18-55 as well but not be tooled up so to speak.
Could you use (I'll show my ignorance now) a converter with zoom lens, and if so what sort of results would you get, or would it just act like a normal zoom lens.
My advice.....stay clear of non Canon converters as they can be non-compatible with the auto-focus system.
Canon have 1.4 and 2.0 times converters. I have a 2x converter (which some purists don't like) and use it with a canon 200mm/f2.8 IS lens and a canon 70-300mm IS zoom. With the 200mm and 2x converter, I have a 400 lens. With the zoom and the 2x converter, I get a 140-600 zoom. HOWEVER, you will have to check which converter is compatible with which the zoom you intend to use AND you will lose a couple of "stops" on your aperture settings.
I have used Sigma EOS fit lenses in the past and found them to be good value....however watch the compatibility with converters.
Sing out if you need a bit more help. If you would like a chat on the phone, PM me with your number....would be delighted to advise.
Regards
______________________________________________________________ Brent & Sue
My advice.....stay clear of non Canon converters as they can be non-compatible with the auto-focus system.
Canon have 1.4 and 2.0 times converters. I have a 2x converter (which some purists don't like) and use it with a canon 200mm/f2.8 IS lens and a canon 70-300mm IS zoom. With the 200mm and 2x converter, I have a 400 lens. With the zoom and the 2x converter, I get a 140-600 zoom. HOWEVER, you will have to check which converter is compatible with which the zoom you intend to use AND you will lose a couple of "stops" on your aperture settings.
I have used Sigma EOS fit lenses in the past and found them to be good value....however watch the compatibility with converters.
Sing out if you need a bit more help. If you would like a chat on the phone, PM me with your number....would be delighted to advise.
Regards
I already have a 2 x converter, it won't work properly with either of my lenses, but it's not what I meant when I asked about converters though.
might prove fun but I can't advise on quality etc as I have never used one
stew
It doesn't seem too expensive, but how do they work, do they fit between the lens and the camera or screw into the filter ring, I've never seen one only in isolation as advertised never on a camera.
As Stew has said, 18mm is considered wide. Going wider is moving into the realm of ultra wide angle lenses (UWA).
Have a look HERE at what angle of view something in the 10 - 17mm range will give you.
That having been said, may I make an observation about UWA lenses. Many people buy UWA lenses, use them for a short period of time only to find they are not getting the results they thought they would get. The reason seems to be that because the angle of view is so great, the images generally end up without having a definitive subject and consequently end up being boring.
Also, when one does fill the frame with the subject, the perspective is often distorted, great if you are after something quirky but can get overdone very quickly.
Given that half decent lenses aren't cheap, may I suggest you give some thought as to how and how often you might use such a lens.
might prove fun but I can't advise on quality etc as I have never used one
stew
It doesn't seem too expensive, but how do they work, do they fit between the lens and the camera or screw into the filter ring, I've never seen one only in isolation as advertised never on a camera.
Kev.
What you are talking about is not so much a "converter" as a "distorter" and they fit on the filter ring so they can drag in extra "rays" from outside the normal angle of view of the lens.
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