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I took my newly bought van (22 months old) out on Saturday to check how everything works.
I have some problems and the previous owner didn't know the answer. I wondered anyone here knows the answers.
Pump -
Basically, I read the instruction booklet and it says that if you open a tap that the pump should come on automatically - it doesn't.
It says that if you press the "pump on" button on the control panel, then this would be for emptying the tank - that certainly happened - if I pressed the "pump on" button, the fresh water tank empties via a blue pipe under the right hand rear wheel.
When the pump switch is on, there is some pumping via the taps, but not very much pressure, and the toilet flush doesn't work even then.
So, it seems to me like the pump is weak / broken or something.
Any hints? Or should I just take it to Premier Motorhomes to be fixed?
Bit of a blow
Other questions, to which the previous owner seems to have no answers are:
1. is the top switch supposed to turn on the outside light? as it doesn't, is it likely I just need to change a bulb? And if so, any ideas how?
2. do the 13 amp plugs only work if you're plugged into electricity? My little electric kettle would not work on the leisure battery when I stopped in a car park for lunch.
3. How do you know how much water to put into the water tank? In the vehicle I rented, I would put the hose into the water tank and when the tank was full, water would spurt back out the side of the vehicle (where I was standing) and I'd know to stop. That didn't happen when I filled the tank here - instead, water somehow escaped inside (maybe from the small round hole where the pump goes in) and went all over the tank, the floor around it, and escaped from all over the base of the vehicle. It seems to me that there must surely be a way to know how much to put in when you're stood by the tap that does not involve flooding your vehicle?
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Re The Pump, If it is a Vision, press the "water" tank symbol then press "Ok" a tap sign should light up, You may have not closed the Hot water tank switch for it emptying the tank, Try turning your tank switch drain off and trying the taps on "Cold" water.
Yes the 13 amp will ONLY work when plugged into electricity as will all 240v items
That is the same with the Adria re filling the tank, Or you can press the water tank symbol as it is filling and the amount will get bigger
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Les
I took my newly bought van (22 months old) out on Saturday to check how everything works.
I have some problems and the previous owner didn't know the answer. I wondered anyone here knows the answers.
Pump -
Basically, I read the instruction booklet and it says that if you open a tap that the pump should come on automatically - it doesn't.
It says that if you press the "pump on" button on the control panel, then this would be for emptying the tank - that certainly happened - if I pressed the "pump on" button, the fresh water tank empties via a blue pipe under the right hand rear wheel.
When the pump switch is on, there is some pumping via the taps, but not very much pressure, and the toilet flush doesn't work even then.
So, it seems to me like the pump is weak / broken or something.
Any hints? Or should I just take it to Premier Motorhomes to be fixed?
Bit of a blow
Other questions, to which the previous owner seems to have no answers are:
1. is the top switch supposed to turn on the outside light? as it doesn't, is it likely I just need to change a bulb? And if so, any ideas how?
2. do the 13 amp plugs only work if you're plugged into electricity? My little electric kettle would not work on the leisure battery when I stopped in a car park for lunch.
3. How do you know how much water to put into the water tank? In the vehicle I rented, I would put the hose into the water tank and when the tank was full, water would spurt back out the side of the vehicle (where I was standing) and I'd know to stop. That didn't happen when I filled the tank here - instead, water somehow escaped inside (maybe from the small round hole where the pump goes in) and went all over the tank, the floor around it, and escaped from all over the base of the vehicle. It seems to me that there must surely be a way to know how much to put in when you're stood by the tap that does not involve flooding your vehicle?
Heather (and Chloe woof woof)
My previous van was a Coral and assuming it's a similar set up in yours, here goes.
If I remember rightly the loss of water may be due to the dump valve by the heater being on. It's a red button near the heater which needs to be lifted. It can be held up by a clothes peg but it's there to dump the water if the temperature in the van drops below freezing, so take the peg out if there is any chance of a freeze up.
The pump switch just activates the pump and needs to be on for normal use.
There should be an overflow in the water tank so if you over fill it runs out the over flow pipe. That needs checking for a blockage or kink in the pipe.
The 13amp plugs only work when on hook up.
The outside light should be accessible from the inside of the cupboard behind it and it might just be a bad connection.
When you've sorted the dump valve and filled the water tank you will need to vent the whole system to purge the trapped air, including the heater and toilet flush.
Hope this helps,
Pete
I took my newly bought van (22 months old) out on Saturday to check how everything works.
I have some problems and the previous owner didn't know the answer. I wondered anyone here knows the answers.
Pump -
Basically, I read the instruction booklet and it says that if you open a tap that the pump should come on automatically - it doesn't.
It says that if you press the "pump on" button on the control panel, then this would be for emptying the tank - that certainly happened - if I pressed the "pump on" button, the fresh water tank empties via a blue pipe under the right hand rear wheel.
When the pump switch is on, there is some pumping via the taps, but not very much pressure, and the toilet flush doesn't work even then.
So, it seems to me like the pump is weak / broken or something.
Any hints? Or should I just take it to Premier Motorhomes to be fixed?
Bit of a blow
Other questions, to which the previous owner seems to have no answers are:
1. is the top switch supposed to turn on the outside light? as it doesn't, is it likely I just need to change a bulb? And if so, any ideas how?
2. do the 13 amp plugs only work if you're plugged into electricity? My little electric kettle would not work on the leisure battery when I stopped in a car park for lunch.
3. How do you know how much water to put into the water tank? In the vehicle I rented, I would put the hose into the water tank and when the tank was full, water would spurt back out the side of the vehicle (where I was standing) and I'd know to stop. That didn't happen when I filled the tank here - instead, water somehow escaped inside (maybe from the small round hole where the pump goes in) and went all over the tank, the floor around it, and escaped from all over the base of the vehicle. It seems to me that there must surely be a way to know how much to put in when you're stood by the tap that does not involve flooding your vehicle?
Heather (and Chloe woof woof)
My previous van was a Coral and assuming it's a similar set up in yours, here goes.
If I remember rightly the loss of water may be due to the dump valve by the heater being on. It's a red button near the heater which needs to be lifted. It can be held up by a clothes peg but it's there to dump the water if the temperature in the van drops below freezing, so take the peg out if there is any chance of a freeze up.
The pump switch just activates the pump and needs to be on for normal use.
There should be an overflow in the water tank so if you over fill it runs out the over flow pipe. That needs checking for a blockage or kink in the pipe.
The 13amp plugs only work when on hook up.
The outside light should be accessible from the inside of the cupboard behind it and it might just be a bad connection.
When you've sorted the dump valve and filled the water tank you will need to vent the whole system to purge the trapped air, including the heater and toilet flush.
Hope this helps,
Pete
Yes to all of this but only one
If the previous owner couldn't tell you just the same - WHAT ON EARTH did they do with it for 22 months?
"Re The Pump, If it is a Vision, press the "water" tank symbol then press "Ok" a tap sign should light up"
I don't know if it is a "Vision" - the control panel doesn't have an "ok" button, so maybe it isn't.
"You may have not closed the Hot water tank switch for it emptying the tank"
I don't know where the hot water tank is - the cold water tank is under the seat, but where is the hot water tank?
"Try turning your tank switch drain off and trying the taps on "Cold" water"
What is a tank switch drain?
"you can press the water tank symbol as it is filling and the amount will get bigger"
The water tank symbol is in the vehicle the other side from the water filling hole, and sadly there's only me - I can see how a couple can do it, with one at the control panel and one holding the hose.
"the loss of water may be due to the dump valve by the heater being on. It's a red button near the heater which needs to be lifted. It can be held up by a clothes peg but it's there to dump the water if the temperature in the van drops below freezing, so take the peg out if there is any chance of a freeze up."
I'll have a look for the dump valve. Is it by the heater which is under the table, or by the heater / hot water controls which are under the hob? [I am confused about the heater under the table, as it doesn't seem hot, and it seems separate from the heating system within the van which comes out of the holes]
"The pump switch just activates the pump and needs to be on for normal use."
Thanks for this. A shame that the instruction manual doesn't say this!
"There should be an overflow in the water tank so if you over fill it runs out the over flow pipe. That needs checking for a blockage or kink in the pipe."
I unscrewed the lid of the seat to view the water tank thoroughly, and it has the hose entry (flow pipe?) going in from the side, directly to the side of the tank.
Then the tank has three other holes, as far as I could see -
(i) a hole where the pump parts go in which has a small plastic lid
(ii) a big hole with a quite large unscrewable black cap which can be access by taking the wooden circular panel out of the seat (ie can be accessed without unscrewing the seat lid off)
(iii) the plug at the bottom, which is just a manual plug, like a bath
It seems to me that if the tank is full, then the easiest route for the water to take is to force the small plastic lid of the pump off and then for the water to run out all over the lid. But that would seem like a very bad design.
"The outside light should be accessible from the inside of the cupboard behind it and it might just be a bad connection."
I'll check it.
"When you've sorted the dump valve and filled the water tank you will need to vent the whole system to purge the trapped air, including the heater and toilet flush."
Heather, I think you need to join the next MHF rally where I am sure more experienced members would be willing to give you a short course on motorhome operation. Where do you live? Maybe close to someone who would not mind helping you.
Trevor
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I would have expected that anybody who had owned a m/home for 22 months should have been able to explain everything you have asked on here to you and much more easily than trying to do it over a forum.
If you bought it from a dealer an explanatory tour should be part of the handover process.
The "water dump valve" is a small black box with a Red knob on the top and it will be located next to the water heater (a large black box with lots of pipes and wires) which is probably hidden away under a seat or the fixed bed if you have one.
For the system to work the Red knob must be pulled UP or all the water in the system will be dumped as soon as you turn the pump on.
The Red knob will drop down if
A- the leisure battery is switched off or goes flat
B- The outside temperature drops to near freezing.
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